Originally posted by celeyhyga17
It's a sinking ship brah.Strawman? Red herring? 😂
That's your logic I'm using. Funny how you do °180 when it's used on you. Oh the hypocrisy.
Why is what I said a straw man or a red herring? Please explain because I want to know what dumb shiet you're going to say this time. Better be careful because I can draw up a million parallels with those fights going by your cockamamie logic
Good, you've already lost.
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Originally posted by abhilegend
Now you've just left any pretensions of an argument and are solely concentrating on red herrings and personal attacks.Good, you've already lost.
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No, he simply told the truth. You can't take what you accuse others of. You contradict yourself when you fail to apply the same logic to characters, excuse me, the character you defend. You lie uncontrollably then you play the victim when you get called on it and you will never change.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Stop projecting like bran too. It doesn't suits you.
You're clearly the one butt hurt if you have to post low-ball scans in the Ownage thread to make yourself feel better.
He didn't ko Superman by punching him. He koed him by astro force which Superman had never encountered.But I like how astro force is suddenly more powerful than omega beams.
Just like Doc Samson knocked out Hulk.
Characters get taken out by surprise even if they see the attacks coming.
Superman spelled out it for you
Orion knocked him out with a blast and this is an undeniable fact.
You're just trying to downplay it by saying Superman was cheap-shotted, which is an outright lie.
If you're not prepared and don't know how powerful the attack is.
Orion legit knocked out Superman in the middle of a fight. No excuses.
Why wasn't he koed by Omega Beams two issues later even after it left him bloodied?That was a weakened Darkseid who just survived Galactus' attack. And superman survived an extended omega beam assault while he was far weaker than usual. 😂
Superman braced for the Omega beams. Surfer had his guard down, talking to Orion, and was blasted from behind. Do you not comprehend the difference?
How about you stop making disingenuous comparison.
And Surfer wasn't knocked out. He was in the middle of getting-up.
Which he did.
Of course we can. Do you want me to post the entire comic here? I posted the scan where Superman says that "Orion is back in the game" after several pages while New Genesis soldiers were fighting Superman.No statements or art was shown where Superman was "out of the game"
That statement doesn't prove Orion was knocked out. This is what I mean when I say the quality of your "evidence" is absolute garbage.
All you have to do is post a statement or art depicting Orion unconscious. If there are none, accept that fact that you have nothing.
That's some really great logic there. Even though they were caught in the explosion of the planet, they were not. Says vince!!!Nobody wants to get caught in a planet exploding while weakened.
You said Superman fully tanked the planet exploding, even though the comic clearly shows Superman escaping off the planet before it exploded.
Enough with the bullsh!t exaggerations please. At this point you're borderline lying to make Superman look good.
Not that big of an amp. It just let him survive the kryptonite barely. He wasn't doing extremely well, he was getting his ass handed to him.If they were able to subdue him, they wouldn't have to resort to killing him by kryptonite.
You made it seem like Superman fought the JLA all at once, which isn't what happened.
It was just days after Doomsday broke free from Phantom Zone.Bodies don't rot to skeletons in a few days.
Don't be silly.
Stop talking nonsense. Non flat out says that Doomsday was the one who killed everyone in the zone.
Because he didn't have the power back then and it was his larval form. Did you even read the comic?
You claimed he killed them via energy draining. Yet you have zero statements or on-panel proof of him energy draining them.
You see skeletons and you assume energy draining? What kind of stupid logic is that? Did it ever occur to you that Doomsday's toxins and poison may have played a role? Use your brain.
Well, in that comic it didn't took time to blow up as soon as Superman let it go. Superman caught it alone. John only helped him after some time when the strain was too much for him alone.Superman caught it before it could fully release. You can even see superman being warped before he catches it.
When the singularity was first released and warping the room, Superman and Batman had a full conversation about it, before Superman decided to cup it with his hands.
http://i.imgur.com/ptuQz58.jpg
Superman even calls it a "miniature black bole" and said he "got it...before it could full release"
Clearly Superman caught it before it could expand to solar system busting levels.
Darkseid was sitting inside a multiversal singularity where Batman was too.http://i.imgur.com/BxSVkqe.jpg
We actually see the whole multiverse being dragged down to hell.
Batman was there in the black hole. Are you saying the writer didn't know what he was writing? Sue the writer then.
Are you prepared to claim that Batman, a normal human being, can survive a black hole? Yes or No?
Your opinion isn't a fact.
I have. If the fights don't synchronize, they are different fights by default. And Firelord stops attacking Surfer when we see surfer floating helplessly.
While he was floating helplessly and firelord stopped attacking him?Yes.
SS#83 is where IC#3 leaves off. In SS#83, it even summarizes and references IC#3 to let readers know what lead up to Surfer fighting Firelord.
This isn't rocket science abhi, this is comics.
Superman was surprised. It happens.
You saying Supes was surprised is like saying a boxer was surprised he was punched in the middle of a boxing match.
No they were not. Superman was talking on the very next page too and koed Orion in one punch.
Superman had to be WOKEN UP by Orion. No he didn't KO Orion, stop spewing out the lies.
Surfer on the other hand was up and talking the very next page on his own, unlike Superman who, I repeat: had to be WOKEN UP by Orion.
Another faulty comparison from you.
He was talking to Firelord the whole time.You are just reaching for straws here.
Do you not know that unconscious people can't talk? Seriously what hell. 😂
Yet, he stopped attacking surfer. So yeah, suck on it vince.
Superman holds back on his allies. He can't be equal to Orion and overpower someone who oneshot killed Orion.Holding back superman struggled to beat a single imperiex probe even with help of Mongul.
Stopped holding back, he was oneshot killing them for days.
He didn't have to kill Orion, but he could've just knocked him out. Tell me why Superman couldn't at least knock Orion out, after a long fist fight?
Holding back Superman. But I take your concession that Surfer can't disintegrate Orion in one shot.
Superman wasn't holding back, if he yells at Orion "If it's a fight you want Orion...You got it!"
Can Superman disintegrate Orion in one-shot? Oh wait, dumb question. He couldn't even knock him out in DOTNG.
Heck, he couldn't even harm Henshaw who laughed at his attacks after an extended fight.😂
That fight has been referenced by Parallax in canon. Hunger is totally non canon BTW. [/B]
You think just because Henshaw mocks Surfer, it means he could beat him? Abomination, Ravenous, and Morg all have mocked Surfer in their fights. They've all ended up bloody and beaten in the end.
