Increase in exorcism demand ascribed to 'Pope Francis' effect

If intelligent humans can succeed in staying under the radar and avoiding proof of their existence, how would anyone obtain and deliver proof of the existence of a being that is far more experienced (having been around since recorded history began) far more powerful, and invisible? Undeniable evidence of the existence of demons would interfere with their goals as it would cause humans to unite against a common inhuman enemy.
Demons would much rather destroy any such evidence and laugh at the people who need proof to believe anything and the ones who are incapable of presenting it. Shaky if you really want proof I suggest that you ask God instead of people. After all it is God that said ask and you shall receive.
I do wonder though if you were to experience proof would you actually share it with us here or just inexplicably stop posting. You're only human after all and most humans would be loathe to recant statements as strong as some of the ones that you've made.

Originally posted by The MISTER
If intelligent humans can succeed in staying under the radar and avoiding proof of their existence, how would anyone obtain and deliver proof of the existence of a being that is far more experienced (having been around since recorded history began) far more powerful, and invisible? Undeniable evidence of the existence of demons would interfere with their goals as it would cause humans to unite against a common inhuman enemy.
Demons would much rather destroy any such evidence and laugh at the people who need proof to believe anything and the ones who are incapable of presenting it. Shaky if you really want proof I suggest that you ask God instead of people. After all it is God that said ask and you shall receive.
I do wonder though if you were to experience proof would you actually share it with us here or just inexplicably stop posting. You're only human after all and most humans would be loathe to recant statements as strong as some of the ones that you've made.

There is no proof of demons being real because they are not real. I could say that unicorns hide all evidence of their existence from humans, but does that make them real? No.

Demons are a part of mythology, and that is what they will always be. I wish I could free people like you from these destructive beliefs, but I cannot.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
There is no proof of demons being real because they are not real. I could say that unicorns hide all evidence of their existence from humans, but does that make them real? No.

Demons are a part of mythology, and that is what they will always be. I wish I could free people like you from these destructive beliefs, but I cannot.

Humans are intelligent and sometimes their intelligence does them a disservice and makes them gods in their individual minds. If a human allows it to their intelligence will make them aware that they could spend the rest of their days learning new things and still die extremely ignorant about the universe they inhabit.
Just because you say that there aren't demons doesn't it any more true than if a 100 year old scholar said it.

Originally posted by The MISTER
In ten thousand years someone could say that you never existed. They could state that there is no proof that you existed and therefore you absolutely never existed. Highly unlikely that this argument would happen but regardless the person claiming that you did indeed exist would be correct. The person requiring proof would likely feel sorry for the ignorant fellow who believes without proof but he would be wrong nevertheless.

Humans are intelligent and sometimes their intelligence does them a disservice and makes them gods in their individual minds. If a human allows it to their intelligence will make them aware that they could spend the rest of their days learning new things and still die extremely ignorant about the universe they inhabit.
Just because you say that there aren't demons doesn't it any more true than if a 100 year old scholar said it.

Even if there were no proof that demons don't exist, that in itself wouldn't be sufficient proof that they do exist.

Originally posted by The MISTER
In ten thousand years someone could say that you never existed.

Originally posted by The MISTER
They could state that there is no proof that you existed and therefore you absolutely never existed.

Originally posted by The MISTER
Highly unlikely that this argument would happen but regardless the person claiming that you did indeed exist would be correct.

Originally posted by The MISTER
The person requiring proof would likely feel sorry for the ignorant fellow who believes without proof but he would be wrong nevertheless.

Originally posted by The MISTER
Humans are intelligent and sometimes their intelligence does them a disservice and makes them gods in their individual minds.

Originally posted by The MISTER
If a human allows it to their intelligence will make them aware that they could spend the rest of their days learning new things and still die extremely ignorant about the universe they inhabit.

Originally posted by The MISTER
Just because you say that there aren't demons doesn't it any more true than if a 100 year old scholar said it.

Originally posted by The MISTER
If intelligent humans can succeed in staying under the radar and avoiding proof of their existence, how would anyone obtain and deliver proof of the existence of a being that is far more experienced (having been around since recorded history began) far more powerful, and invisible? Undeniable evidence of the existence of demons would interfere with their goals as it would cause humans to unite against a common inhuman enemy.
Demons would much rather destroy any such evidence and laugh at the people who need proof to believe anything and the ones who are incapable of presenting it. Shaky if you really want proof I suggest that you ask God instead of people. After all it is God that said ask and you shall receive.
I do wonder though if you were to experience proof would you actually share it with us here or just inexplicably stop posting. You're only human after all and most humans would be loathe to recant statements as strong as some of the ones that you've made.

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Thank you. Both for this and your subsequent post.

Originally posted by Star428
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Thank you.

Ya, thank you! The palm palms and skirt look good on you. 😄

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Yes, but where is the evidence for demons existing?

Even if there were no proof that demons don't exist, that in itself wouldn't be sufficient proof that they do exist.

We could probably all agree that all existence could be brought down to the simple balance of ones and zeros, one representing existence and zero representing nonexistence.
Zero / nonexistence could maintain itself indefinitely but with the introduction of one / existence things become far more complex. Why is there a/an one/existence in the first place?

The only realistic answer is that there has always been a one and that one created the zero because if there had always been a zero things would have remained the same indefinitely.

This existence is as aware of itself as we are aware of ourselves, and we have evidence that self awareness lies within existence. When the big bang / creation began what did the universe expand into? If the universe contains all existence then it's only rational that it is expanding into an infinite amount of nonexistence.

God is all existences awareness. In the Bible it states that God hates an off balance repeatedly. Can there be light if dark doesn't exist? What is love where there has never been hate? If there is no wrong there can be no right, no up without a down and so on and so on.

The only holy texts that I have ever been introduced to that contain the balanced instruction to treat others how you want to be treated have been in the Bible and repeated multiple times by Jesus. To do so is right and to do otherwise is wrong consistently.

Jesus spoke of the existence of demons as well, and they even recognized Jesus according to the Bible. Demons and the devil give balance to God and the angels because it is God's will that there be balance within our existence.

God and his angels want to save people and want people to do what is right. The devil and his demons want to destroy people and want people to do what is wrong. This is balance and that balance is all the evidence I'll ever need.

Originally posted by Star428
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Thank you. Both for this and your subsequent post.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison

No. The fact that I exist now cannot be undone by someone’s belief in the future.

Originally posted by The MISTER
You made an error here. The "No" part is totally incorrect and then you immediately contradicted it and agreed with me. Tighten up shaky I know you're ready to disagree with me but don't get sloppy rushing to object to my post. 😉

That's the problem, you don't even know what I disagree with you on.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That's the problem, you don't even know what I disagree with you on.

Originally posted by The MISTER
shaky you a trip man!! 🤣

What is it that I disagree with?

Thread comes back to life after 16 days; maybe IT needs an exorcism. 😱

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What is it that I disagree with?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
No.

shaky you may not have meant to but you had me about to die (in a good way) with that one comment. I don't care that we don't always agree I have to say you're not one to back down and that can be a good trait sometimes. So is humility however as nobody knows everything! 😎

Originally posted by riv6672
Thread comes back to life after 16 days; maybe IT needs an exorcism. 😱

There've been threads dead a lot longer than that, riv. Some guy in the comic book versus forum resurrected several threads that had been dead for over a decade!

Originally posted by The MISTER
Originally posted by The MISTER
Highly unlikely that this argument would happen but regardless the person claiming that you DID INDEED EXIST would be CORRECT.

shaky you may not have meant to but you had me about to die (in a good way) with that one comment. I don't care that we don't always agree I have to say you're not one to back down and that can be a good trait sometimes. So is humility however as nobody knows everything! 😎

I find this amusing, but off topic.

Originally posted by Star428
There've been threads dead a lot longer than that, riv. Some guy in the comic book versus forum resurrected several threads that had been dead for over a decade!