Darth Revan Reborn's Starforge Empire vs. Vitiate's True Sith Empire

Assume Darkside Endings for KotOR 1 and 2 are canon for this thread.

Revan and Bastila rule as the two top Sith (or Dark Jedi since Revan would have been aware of the true Sith), and he begins mobilizing his empire for Vitiate.

Since the events of "Revan" no longer happen, Vitiate isn't held back and launches an attack about ten years after the events of Kotor 2.

The top Dark Jedi in Revan's Empire would be himself, Bastila, and Dark Exile, who has some pretty mean feats (taking down the Jedi Masters in single combat, including Kavar, for one).

Who wins in an all-out galactic war? Does Revan's empire hold up better than the Republic did 300 years later in the standard canon?

If it came down to a battle of the leaders, does Darth Revan with a honed StarForge amp and a full embrace of the dark side rival Vitiate?

Revan's empire wins because his armada would be unimaginable after ten years of production. Vitiate's empire would be hilariously out-numbered. Put on-top of that Bastila's BM haxing each important battle and it is over before it starts.

This is kinda hard for me, on one hand the fleet produced by the Starforge would be massive, but on the other hand Vitiate's Empire has been producing ships for a thousand years, not to mention far stronger Sith than Revan's Dark Jedi, and the Dark Honor Guard. Plus at least one person in Vitiate's Empire has to have BM. Imo, I think Vitiate's Empire wins this.

There is a difference between BM - and the most powerful Battle Meditation in the mythos.
But yeah, Vitiate had the Dread Masters: http://www.comicvine.com/profile/darthant66/blog/the-dread-masters-respect-thread/97192/.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
There is a difference between BM - and the most powerful Battle Meditation in the mythos.
But yeah, Vitiate had the Dread Masters: http://www.comicvine.com/profile/darthant66/blog/the-dread-masters-respect-thread/97192/.

It's my own fault for making a thread based on non-canon, but I wonder if Exile would be able to do something about the Dread Masters. In the Darkside version of Kotor 2 you suck up the force energy of four council members, Nihilus, and possibly others I'm not remembering.

Lightside exile suppressed her wound but Dark exile embraced it. It would be an interesting fight to be sure. Exile of course couldn't take all of the Dread Masters alone, but I bet Revan could find some competant Dark Jedi to back her up.

You underestimate the Dread Masters to a grotesque degree, then.

Anyways, Revan wins.

If Vitiate can take out Revan (Darth Revan is at severe risk of getting mind-controlled imo) then they win. If not, the Star Forge is likely too strong.

Originally posted by Nephthys
(Darth Revan is at severe risk of getting mind-controlled imo).

Um, ok.

Revan steamrolls, Vitiate isn't doing shit after he gets nuked by an Armada twice the size of the Galactic Empire.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
You underestimate the Dread Masters to a grotesque degree, then.

Anyways, Revan wins.

How so? I said "wonder." It's called speculation.

Don't disagree with your conclusion though.

Lol @ most of the stuff said in this thread.

Vitiate's Empire pretty much bitchslaps Revan's, if they're as strong as they are during SWTOR.

The real Revan have planned a new star forge with a cpy of its' own psychology... Near Malachor V. To replace the other star forge... And being able to use it without being corrupted....
Unfortunatly Revan Reborn forget most of his own past... Why did he turn into Darth Revan what was his goal.... So.... This is hopless..... He will give up the star forge... His own empire etc and without Revan as a leader Traya take control of the enw siths...

Where Vitiate possess an hudge armada....

Vitiate win and crush Mandalorians forever. A second time.

Revan's fleet was so huge that it was visible when compared with the Sun that it was above.

As if a video game screen could even feasibly portray the size of a star accurately.

I'm not sure by what you mean, but usually when it comes to scaling things from fiction we just go with a minimum size for a star, in this case since it's safe to assume that it's similar to our Sun a yellow dwarf. Then you scale it by how many pixels it has in comparison to the fleet, that would give you the size of the fleet in comparison to the Sun.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
As if a video game screen could even feasibly portray the size of a star accurately.

I don't think anybody's figured out the true size of the Star Forge. Somebody did a calculation based on the cutscene where you can see it sucking energy from the star and estimated it was around 500 miles tall. But then somebody else did a calculation based on how large the Hammerhead Cruisers looked next to its stabilizers, and came to it being about twice as long as the Executor. We'll never know for sure...

Revan out-produces and outdates Vitiate in terms of war machines, It is said that many of the Sith in Revan's empire had already mastered the dark side. Combine this with the fact Revan controls like 95% of the galaxy and is a better tactician than anyone in Vitiate's Empire, not to mention has a DS Bastila with ten years of training to hax his battles then he wins.

Does he also have Nihilus, Traya, and Sion? Along with the Traya academy?

He should have Sion as he was present for when Revan trashed the academy on Korriban and the Sith did what Sith do to each other.