Originally posted by Col. Valerian
But there are also a load of no-name Jedi in the PT and only a group of very powerful ones. It's like that in most eras.
Absolutely. The difference being is that Lucas declared the prequels to be the golden age of the Jedi and they numbered only ten thousand whereas SWTOR is saturated with millions of trained Force adepts on either side.
Originally posted by Col. Valerian
And yes, the PT Sith are indeed among the most powerful in the mythos, but they're a handful.
And as I correctly deduced and Joker confirmed, this thread has nothing to do with raw numbers.
Originally posted by Col. Valerian
There are a lot more very powerful Sith in the TOR era.
And a vast array of fodder. The elite in SWTOR are not so numerous as to adequately balance an otherwise titanic deficit. There are, what, a dozen or so "heavyweights" that we see in SWTOR? A dozen versus millions doesn't sound like a very convincing argument for quality.
And that's what this thread is about. Quality. SWTOR is encumbered by millions of no-name rank-and-file piss ants. They don't win this thread.
Not my fault your SWTORboner compelled you to jump the gun, misinterpret the OP, and make a series of silly remarks. It's also not my fault that you continue to stand behind them instead of saying "whoops, my bad" and reevaluating your stance in light of my interpretation {which turns out, to the surprise of no one, to be the right one}.
That's impatience and pride, my little English muffin. You've let carthage and the anti-Bane crew really do a number on your KMC platform. But it needn't define you.
Take a deep breath, exhale forcefully, and start again. I've got faith in you. No one else might, but I do.
Originally posted by carthage
The TOR Jedi barring Revan, Zallow, Leneer, Satele, Barsenthor, and maybe a few others are by and large pretty shit.
Tol Braga and Tythy.
Their raw number should allow for a pretty good number of reasonably strong ones to rise up, IMO. Though the series really doesn't focus on the Jedi badasses as much as it does Sith, does it?
The TempestAnd a vast array of fodder. The elite in SWTOR are not so numerous as to adequately balance an otherwise titanic deficit. There are, what, a dozen or so "heavyweights" that we see in SWTOR? A dozen versus millions doesn't sound like a very convincing argument for quality.
And that's what this thread is about. Quality. SWTOR is encumbered by millions of no-name rank-and-file piss ants. They don't win this thread.
View it from the other direction, though. The higher number of force users means that they're catching a higher total number of high potential people.
Sure, it means plenty of fodder, but the result is still a whole lot of strong ones too.
And it's not like they're lacking in force knowledge or technique to properly train the ones who do stand out, they have the skills (unlike the late New Sith Wars era, or most of the Triumvirate sith).
The number of weak ones doesn't matter too much when you're counting strong ones.
Originally posted by ares834
Actually, thinking about it more, sometime around the OT era would have the most powerful force users on average. There are so few Jedi/Sith at this time that the powerful ones like Sidious, Vader, and Yoda really skew the average power.
Truly the most powerful era is the one with the least amount of force users in it. :makessense: