Darth Malgus vs. Count Dooku

Originally posted by SunRazer
Dooku pressing Yoda with Lightning and then Deflecting his own Lightning when Yoda sent it back at him could very well match Malgus's feat of wrecking the Jedi in Deceived.

Though the feat where Malgus staggers the Strike Team with Lightning in TOR is definitely not something Dooku has replicated.

Lightning that caused no discernible strain or as of AOTC has only debilitated Kenobi/Anakin vs. Lightning that kills 2 Jedi on contact/drops Barsen/Hero/Nox/Wrath? No, they aren't equal feats imo. Dooku's lightning is generally inferior to Malgus's overall.

Originally posted by Arhael
In RotS Dooku's Force push and choke were unpredictable enough for Kenobi to even attempt to block it. Kenobi demonstrated that, when ready, he can put up a block even against Anakin's TK. Of course there are cases, where Dooku used Force attacks without an element of surprise too.

Malgus could easily replicate any showing of ragdolling Kenobi. He's been taken out by individuals who are less powerful than he is (Savage/Maul/Ventress). And Dooku has been knocked around/choked by even Savage/Kenobi himself, his showings of force barrier/aura aren't on par with Malgus's either. Malgus utilizes his force abilities much more violently than Dooku, and exceeds him in telekinesis/lightning not to mention Maelstrom which Dooku isn't even prepared to deal with at all.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
He sure can defeat advanced swordsman with ease. Coughsorabulqcoughasajjventresscoughanakinskywalker cough.

Yoda never took out multiple sith or Jedi at one time yet he is way better than Malgus.

None of those individuals are as powerful in the force as Barsen/Wrath/Nox/ or Hero barring Anakin. Being a skilled swordsmen has nothing to do with their showings in the force, Bulq is quite abysmal in terms of applications of force showings in general

Originally posted by carthage
Lightning that caused no discernible strain or as of AOTC has only debilitated Kenobi/Anakin vs. Lightning that kills 2 Jedi on contact/drops Barsen/Hero/Nox/Wrath? No, they aren't equal feats imo. Dooku's lightning is generally inferior to Malgus's overall.

Dooku's lightning instantly knocked out AotC Anakin, that's impressive enough.

Malgus could easily replicate any showing of ragdolling Kenobi. He's been taken out by individuals who are less powerful than he is (Savage/Maul/Ventress). And Dooku has been knocked around/choked by even Savage/Kenobi himself, his showings of force barrier/aura aren't on par with Malgus's either. Malgus utilizes his force abilities much more violently than Dooku, and exceeds him in telekinesis/lightning not to mention Maelstrom which Dooku isn't even prepared to deal with at all.

None of those individuals are as powerful in the force as Barsen/Wrath/Nox/ or Hero barring Anakin. Being a skilled swordsmen has nothing to do with their showings in the force, Bulq is quite abysmal in terms of applications of force showings in general

I don't doubt malgus is powerful however he doesn't rank amongst the best of all time while dooku does. It doesn't matter as dooku being in the movies is more featured than malgus who was though up just like vitiate and expansion and thus coming to life. Being that dooku is more calm and collected than malgus he does t just show destruction where ever he goes unlike malgus who uses his power to destroy. However dooku can still unleash some pretty cool stuff. His TK is most likely above malgus and the use of lightning in this battle is negleable as both can be countered by their light sabers or by dookus tutaminis, however I would say dooku is more powerful however not by a large amount as he has way more experience.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I don't doubt malgus is powerful however he doesn't rank amongst the best of all time

Originally posted by Stigma
Um... going with his showings mentioned here, he does.

So he ranks among Sidious, yoda, vitiate, Caedus, Luke, Jaina? 😂

Dooku doesn't exactly rank among the first five people you listed.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Dooku doesn't exactly rank among the first five people you listed.

I know that's why I didn't put him but he's regarded closely isn't he? He isn't like distant. In terms of tiers he is a tier below them. So he isn't a slouch he can be compared, he also has great showimgs as well.

Yeah. Plagueis, Kun, Krayt, Vader, Revan all come to mind too.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I know that's why I didn't put him but he's regarded closely isn't he?

Not that he has to be in order to be recognized as being among the best of all time. Dooku is among the best ever, but there are many force-users better than him. He's definitely my top 20.

Originally posted by Stigma
Yeah. Plagueis, Kun, Krayt, Vader all come to mind too.

I've never been really high up with kun. Can someone give me some information on his abilities that isn't biased. Plagues I can see him being above dooku just not as one of the most powerful force weilders ever, I don't believe Krayt to either, vader is in the same tier as Dooku just higher in that tier. You are naive thinking malgus is with the ones listed. Malgus is powerful but not on their level powerful IMO.

Originally posted by carthage Lightning that caused no discernible strain or as of AOTC has only debilitated Kenobi/Anakin vs. Lightning that kills 2 Jedi on contact/drops Barsen/Hero/Nox/Wrath? No, they aren't equal feats imo. Dooku's lightning is generally inferior to Malgus's overall.

You need to read what I say before responding. I said the Strike Team feat was better, but the killing fodder Jedi isn't.

It caused Yoda discernible strain according to the novel and other sources.

Originally posted by SunRazer
You need to read what I say before responding. I said the Strike Team feat was better, but the killing fodder Jedi isn't.

It caused Yoda discernible strain according to the novel and other sources.

It did cause yoda strain because it was two force powers pushing against one another.

Malgus' Force abilities will be the least of Dooku's worries, what Dooku is going to struggle with is the sheer force of his strong style, that Dooku's Makashi isn't well suited to dealing with.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Malgus' Force abilities will be the least of Dooku's worries, what Dooku is going to struggle with is the sheer force of his strong style, that Dooku's Makashi isn't well suited to dealing with.

That won't be a big issue you all think it is. Dooku has counter measures and defeated sora bull who is a master of juyo/vaapad, anakin Skywalker djem so multiple times, Quinn Lin vos Ataru possibly, held yoda off, Ataru specialist, said to be the dead rival of mace windu, vaapad specialist, and an angry anakin, able to hold off his assault, Dark side Djem so specialist.

So with that he can definitely handle malgus brute force. Also brute force won't win the day agaisn't dooku.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Malgus' Force abilities will be the least of Dooku's worries, what Dooku is going to struggle with is the sheer force of his strong style, that Dooku's Makashi isn't well suited to dealing with.

Dooku had no problem with Anakin and he is more skilled and just as physically strong as Malgus.

Well...if Anakin can take Malgus...he can't be that awesome.

Anakin would beat Malgus

Originally posted by Angelalex242
Well...if Anakin can take Malgus...he can't be that awesome.

Anakin can beat most in SW, save for a few top dogs..

By ROTS could anakin defeat mace windu in a fair duel.

Originally posted by Stigma
No. Dooku isn't close to someone like Sidious.