Originally posted by FreshestSlice
I don't need to watch the video, I've played the game. Looks like they're talking to me. I did not remember the sumersault though, so I'll concede there. I hardly see how that's a showing of power however, since the HoT's in the air and not looking.
Concession accepted.
As for your argument; why didn't you bother to watch the video? Is it too much to ask from you?
"since the HoT's in the air and not looking."
WTF?
Hero of Tython leapt towards Master Tol Braga, using Force Jump telekinetic ability (Just like Anakin Skywalker leapt towards Obi-Wan Kenobi at the beginning of their duel on Mustafar). However, Master Braga caught Hero of Tython in the action mid-air and sent him packing backwards, with his own telekinetic abilities.
Now how exactly the aforementioned feat of Master Braga is not a showing of power as per you? This feat affirms great power and skill of Master Braga in the use of telekinetic abilities. Master Braga had to react swiftly and overcome the defenses of Hero of Tython to pull-off this feat.
Keep in mind that Hero of Tython - getting overwhelmed in a duel for even a moment - is a rare occurrence.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Not really. In the video you just posted the HoT is hardly putting up Force shields. Vader doesn't usually sumersault anyway.
Some actions are not depicted visually in the games, they can be logically assumed. It is norm for a well-trained and battle-hardened Jedi to not neglect his defenses while attacking enemies. You expect Hero of Tython to challenge a powerful opponent while neglecting his defenses? 🙄
As a reminder:
Whether defending allies by deflecting a barrage of blaster-fire or charging in to challenge a Sith Lord, the Knight’s role is crucial in any conflict. The Jedi Knight enjoys the benefit of ancient teachings that have been passed down through hundreds of generations. Combining these time-tested maneuvers with the natural guidance of the Force, the Knight is capable of achieving extraordinary feats.
Taken from Star Wars: The Old Republic
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Except the HoT's not on Vader's caliber with TK.
Really?
YouTube video
Keep in mind that Hero of Tython was the most powerful Jedi of his era, and among the most powerful Jedi ever. He is officially stronger then some Jedi who have feats on par with and/or superior those of Darth Vader.
And Hero of Tython's era have tested the Jed like none other in history:
A symbol of hope in dark times, the Jedi Knight stands for the legacy of the Jedi Order—more than twenty-thousand years of protecting the Republic and keeping the peace across the galaxy. Though Jedi Knights have served as generals, guerilla fighters, and warriors for generations, their legendary combat prowess faces its greatest test during this age.
Taken from Star Wars: The Old Republic
Also keep in mind that Hero of Tython, by virtue of his (class) training and mindset, is less incline to use the Force for offensive purposes. He is more likely to use the Force for defensive purposes. This, however, shouldn't be mistaken for his lack of ability to perform impressive feats by using the Force, should the need arise.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
The HoT's not on Vader's caliber with anything. Why are we having this debate where you compare an inferior opponent's ability to recover to an even more inferior opponent.
So I have to take your word for this?
Hero of Tython is possibly not just stronger then Darth Vader ever had been, he is also a legendary lightsaber combatant.
"You are the Jedi's finest." – Lord Scourge (Emperor's Wrath)
"[I]You are our greatest warrior… and our best hope." – Satele Shan
[I]"You harness immense power." - Emperor Vitiate
"The Hero of Tython. Your martial skills are legendary." – Lord Loyat
"You are our greatest asset." – Supreme Chancellor Suresh
More;
Through years of disciplined training and meditation, the Jedi Knight hones body and mind into perfect harmony. Combining the foresight of the Force with unrivaled reflexes and practiced physical precision, the Knight turns combat into an art form, gracefully executing acrobatic feats in tandem with elegant lightsaber tactics.
Taken from Star Wars: The Old Republic
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
I could see if Braga had actually defeated the HoT instead of letting them regain their lightsaber, but considering Braga couldn't do either of those things, I don't see the relevance. The fact that the HoT is weaker than Vader doesn't help you.
See above.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
People that could defeat this team that aren't Vitiate, Luke, or Sidious:Vader
Yoda
Dooku
Malak
Traya
Bane
Krayt
Kun
Windu
Plagueis
Cade
Starkiller/Marek
And a hell of a lot more.
Why? Because these are all people in the leagues of Revan that can at least press him in sabers and the Force. This team couldn't even handle two seconds of lighting, aside from Braga and the HoT, and neither of them stack up to Vader in the Force. And you can go our of your way to say something masterbatory about Vitiate's power, but given the fact not a single person here died from it, I have my doubts to the actual amount of power put behind it.
Fantastic. You have figured it all out so well. The magnitude of brain fart demonstrated in this response is baffling. 🙄
Why?
MASTER TOL BRAGA has gathered a team of the galaxy's most powerful Jedi. Their goal: find the Emperor's hidden fortress, infiltrate its defenses, capture the Emperor and bring him back to the Jedi Order.
Taken from Star Wars: The Old Republic
With Grand Master Satele Shan's support, Master Braga assembles a strike team of the strongest and most resolute Jedi in the order. Their goal is to pinpoint the Emperor's hidden fortress, capture the Sith leader alive, and turn him to the light side.
Taken from Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia
So should I take the lore seriously or your nonsense?
As for these Jedi surviving in the confrontation with Emperor Vitiate; they survived because Vitiate wanted them to, because Vitiate went easy on them and wanted to use them as his pwns.
You have played SWTOR Jedi Knight story, right? So tell me what Vitiate did to the Jedi after transforming them into his puppets?
Vitiate utilized them to commit atrocities and fuel his ultimate ritual.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
So you're not going to respond to the fact that Revan, a Vader-tier opponent, would ragdoll this team. Good.
Revan > Vader
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
You flattering yourself does you no credit. Perhaps if you spent more time actually looking at the game whose dick you have so far down your throat you're choking on it, you'd see that this team doesn't even stack up to the the major fighters in this game. But then you'd have to admit every random Sith in the Empire isn't Dooku-tier. And we can't have that.
Perhaps if you spent more time actually focusing on the facts affiliated with the game, you may have not committed so much brain fart as you did in this response.
Also, I never claimed that every random Sith in the Empire is Dooku-tier. I asserted that Lords and Darths of the Empire can be Dooku-tier, and they are short in numbers.
For reference: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f6/t611382.html