Jade Helm 15

Started by Time Immemorial5 pages

Originally posted by Omega Vision
That's a valid point, but I only said that counter-insurgency in Eastern Europe was a possible reason. According to the US military's spokespeople, the training is supposed to reflect "new and difficult terrain our forces might face overseas."

They chose the American Southwest, Texas, and southern California to stage the training exercises, so we'd have to look at what kinds of places have similar geography and climates. For Southern California, with its mix of desert, city, and Mediterranean climate coastline it's probably the closest you can get to simulating a ground operation in coastal Libya or Syria on United States soil. Texas, due to its size and diversity, can stand in for a lot of places that Americans might get involved in.

Pay attention to the fact that Jade Helm is supposed to train soldiers to operate quietly, without attracting too much attention from the local populace. While no part of me believes that Jade Helm is in any way prepping for a military takeover of the US, I am inclined to believe that it could be preparation for off-the-record black or gray interventions overseas, interventions where the US doesn't recognize or acknowledge their own operations (perhaps taking a cue from Russia's more or less successful covert hiding-in-plain-sight-and-lying-with-a-straight-face operations in Ukraine).

Why on earth would we be training for a counter insurgency in Eastern Europe, we have zero reasons to deploy in the EU, and the EU would never allow that. Not only that, that would set off huge alarms with Russia.

Secondly, building US cities that look like Washington DC and other cities in America, is pretty suspect.

http://www.truthandaction.org/military-builds-another-fake-american-looking-city-urban-warfare-training/

"Just last February, the U.S. Army unveiled a similar 300-acre urban training center in Virginia, complete with a Baptist church and underground subway system nearly identical to one in Washington DC. After months of being stonewalled, Infowars’ reporters David Knight and Staff Sergeant Joe Biggs traveled to the facility this week and uncovered several other suspicious structures.

While attempting to locate military personnel for an interview, both Knight and Biggs were detained by police and escorted to the base’s headquarters. Alex Jones contacted Fort AP Hill’s public information officer, Bob McElroy, to learn the fate of his reporters and to inform McElroy of the facility’s nefarious background."

This looks nothing like the Baltic Area, looks like middle America, school buses, churches, strip malls, apartment building, churches as such.

Lol, who is that?

Alex Jones

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Why on earth would we be training for a counter insurgency in Eastern Europe, we have zero reasons to deploy in the EU, [/IMG]

Contingency training, it happens.

Hope your right Rob.

I would wager it's that or training for black-op missions in foreign countries that we'll never hear about anyways over "the military is taking over" conspiracy mindset.

You could be right in the sense that it's contingency training in the case Marshall Law does ever need to be enacted in a US city. Which overall is a good thing. What if there's some rampant disease outbreak and a city needs to be nailed down to stop the spread of infection. You'll be happy then that military units were trained.

I honestly don't think you'd need to train soldiers to enact martial law on a US city, except perhaps psychological training (to rid them of their natural reluctance to brutalize and oppress American citizens at their superiors' orders), and you wouldn't need to put them in the city for that, you'd just need a plain white room to brainwash them in.

They live in America. They've grown up in America. They know the climate, the cities, and the habits of the local people because they are the local people. The US Army DOES NOT need to train to take over America. If they had the will and political prompting to do so, they'd do it easily, and all the preppers and gunnuts who think they're prepared would actually be the first people to be snatched up because they can't seem to stop themselves from bragging about their inventories of weaponry and other supplies online.

There are dozens of better explanations for what Jade Helm is about than preparation for martial law.

The ending of Jade Helm roughly corresponds with the 4th blood moon in this tetrad!!! Coincidence, maybe?

That's when Obama will reach his final form. It's all coming together.

Just discovered this:

http://survivalinstitute.com/guess-who-is-required-to-be-willing-to-disarm-americans-if-asked

I'm glad to confirm that there are those in our military who will not be willing to betray the American people and the Constitution. Just hope there's MANY more.

"For example, a former Navy SEAL got out of the military shortly after he and his fellow SEALs were told to sign papers saying that they would be willing to go door-to-door disarming Americans or that they would lose their positions."

Source? Because anyone can claim to be a Navy Seal online, as a former Navy Seal Elite Core, I can attest to this.

Even news sources are fishy most of the time. How would you verify a source like that Rob?

LOL. Doesn't surprise me that he would call the guy a liar. I'm beginning to think he and the other naysayers are in the government's employ. Everytime someone gives evidence of what the government is doing or what they're up to they are labelled "liars". LOL. But, they sure trust the government don't they? LOL.

Didn't call anyone a liar, actually.

Originally posted by Star428
LOL. Doesn't surprise me that he would call the guy a liar. I'm beginning to think he and the other naysayers are in the government's employ. Everytime someone gives evidence of what the government is doing or what they're up to they are labelled "liars". LOL. But, they sure trust the government don't they? LOL.

Because the government are such angels who have never lied to us. 🙄

Alright, you've convinced me.

All these cop on black killings is leading somewhere bad.

The governor has deployed National Guard and there is a curfew without martial law even being issued.

What that means is, now they can deploy troops without even martial law.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
All these cop on black killings is leading somewhere bad.

The governor has deployed National Guard and there is a curfew without martial law even being issued.

What that means is, now they can deploy troops without even martial law.


Of course they can. Deploying the national guard in a state of emergency has been done many times in the wake of natural disasters and urban upheaval. Martial law doesn't mean deployment of troops in a civilian area, it means the suspension of civilian habeas corpus and the substitution of military law (which often times means the deployment of troops to enforce said law).

I think people in this thread are confusing martial law, deployment of troops in civilian areas, and a military coup d'etat as if they're all one thing.

Tomayto / Tomahto