Originally posted by The_Tempest
The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia explicitly states he utilizes battle meditation. We can infer it or a variant of it is used by him to invigorate his troops and drive his fleets per the DESB.
Ah ok yeah the Encyclopedia does say Sidious can use it. Never really had the need to read that, so nice find!
Originally posted by The_Tempest
I can provide you with ten definitions of infinite and I didn't see infinite. The Forge could generate ships indefinitely, which isn't in question, but to pretend Bastila was contending with an infinite number of ships is a lie.
Far more than anything we ever seen in a single battle.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
I'll have to provide the quote later and The Forge was not an infinite army.
I believe you're referring to:
Palpatine knew precisely why the Empire couldn’t last without his dread power: he had designed it that way. No one ever suspected how much he relied on the Dark Side of the Force. He shaped those of his government by using the Force against them. He used it to control his fleets and to drive his soldiers on to victory. He used it to destroy his enemies from a distance and learn of conspiracies against him. Without it, there was no way the Empire could endure, as he had designed it. The Dark Side flowed through him like some primordial ichor and was the key to all his power.
Soon he was ready to strike. Fully healed and in greater control of the Dark Side than ever, he finally acted to end the Mutiny.
"He used it to control his fleets and drive his soldiers on to victory"
#Learn2DealWithItPls.
Some more for lols.
"Thrawn needed C'baoth to coordinate his military forces in much the same way Emperor Palpatine consolidated the fighting spirit of his followers through the Force."
"For the first time, the Death Star rocked. The collision with the exploding Destroyer was only the beginning, leading to various systems breakdowns, which led to reactor meltdowns, which led to personnel panic, abandonment of posts, further malfunctions, and general chaos. Smoke was everywhere, substantial ramblings came from all directions at once, people were running and shouting. Electrical fires, steam explosions, cabin depressurizations, disruption of chain-of-command. Added to this, the continued bombardment by Rebel cruisers—smelling fear in the enemy—merely heightened the sense of hysteria that was already pervasive.
For the Emperor was dead. The central, powerful evil that had been the cohesive force to the Empire was gone; and when the dark side was this diffused, this nondirected—this was simply where it led.
Confusion.
Desperation.
Damp fear."
"Then you must have wondered how a few dozen Rebel ships could possibly rout an Imperial force that outgunned it by at least ten to one "I didn't spend much time with such wonderings," C'baoth said dryly. "I assumed that the Rebels were simply better warriors."
"In a sense, that's true," Thrawn agreed. "The Rebels did indeed fight better, but not because of any special abilities or training. They fought better than the Fleet because the Emperor was dead."
He turned to look at Pellaeon. "You were there, Captain—you must have noticed it. The sudden loss of coordination between crew members and ships; the loss of efficiency and discipline. The loss, in short, of that elusive quality we call fighting spirit."
"There was some confusion, yes," Pellaeon said stiffly. He was starting to see where Thrawn was going with this, and he didn't like it a bit. "But nothing that can't be explained by the normal stresses of battle."
One blue-black eyebrow went up, just slightly. "Really? The loss of the Executor—the sudden, last-minute TIE fighter incompetence that brought about the destruction of the Death Star itself—the loss of six other Star Destroyers in engagements that none of them should have had trouble with? All of that nothing but normal battle stress?"
"The Emperor was not directing the battle," Pellaeon snapped with a fire that startled him. "Not in any way. I was there, Admiral—I know."
"Yes, Captain, you were there," Thrawn said, his voice abruptly hard. "And it's time you gave up your blindfold and faced the truth, no matter how bitter you find it. You had no real fighting spirit of your own anymore—none of you in the Imperial Fleet did. It was the Emperor's will that drove you; the Emperor's mind that provided you with strength and resolve and efficiency. You were as dependent on that presence as if you were all borg-implanted into a combat computer."
"From the exterior, the Death Star's habitable surface was divided into two hemispheres, each with 12 zones. It had a crew of more than 265,000 soldiers. The total personnel soared to more than one million with the addition of gunners, ground troopers, and starship support crews and pilots."
It's not difficult to educate yourselves on Sidious people, you should try it sometime. All these quotes can be found here: http://www.comicvine.com/profile/silver2467/blog/emperor-palpatinedarth-sidious-respect-thread/63101/
Originally posted by Nephthys
It's not difficult to educate yourselves on Declann people, you should try it sometime.
Conflicting sources, but sure let's go with the c-canon stuff over the G-Canon ROTJ Novel. Seems legit.
Also, I did some short Math about the forces Palpatine was BM-ing at Endor, for funsies.
It's 2.6 million people.
Originally posted by Selenial
I believe you're referring to:Palpatine knew precisely why the Empire couldn’t last without his dread power: he had designed it that way. No one ever suspected how much he relied on the Dark Side of the Force. He shaped those of his government by using the Force against them. He used it to control his fleets and to drive his soldiers on to victory. He used it to destroy his enemies from a distance and learn of conspiracies against him. Without it, there was no way the Empire could endure, as he had designed it. The Dark Side flowed through him like some primordial ichor and was the key to all his power.
Soon he was ready to strike. Fully healed and in greater control of the Dark Side than ever, he finally acted to end the Mutiny."He used it to control his fleets and drive his soldiers on to victory"
#Learn2DealWithItPls.
So I guess neither of you have an inkling of how to bull shit your way out of this quote, cool.
Originally posted by Selenial
Conflicting sources, but sure let's go with the c-canon stuff over the G-Canon ROTJ Novel. Seems legit.Also, I did some short Math about the forces Palpatine was BM-ing at Endor, for funsies.
It's 2.6 million people.
The RotJ novel says nothing about BM. So yeah, it is legit. 👆
Originally posted by Nephthys
The RotJ novel says nothing about BM. So yeah, it is legit. 👆
For the first time, the Death Star rocked. The collision with the exploding Destroyer was only the beginning, leading to various systems breakdowns, which led to reactor meltdowns, which led to personnel panic, abandonment of posts, further malfunctions, and general chaos. Smoke was everywhere, substantial ramblings came from all directions at once, people were running and shouting. Electrical fires, steam explosions, cabin depressurizations, disruption of chain-of-command. Added to this, the continued bombardment by Rebel cruisers—smelling fear in the enemy—merely heightened the sense of hysteria that was already pervasive.
For the Emperor was dead. The central, powerful evil that had been the cohesive force to the Empire was gone; and when the dark side was this diffused, this nondirected—this was simply where it led.
Confusion.
Desperation.
Damp fear.
Lolpls. Try harder.
Originally posted by Selenial
Lolpls. Try harder.
Try against what? The completely irrelevant quote that has nothing to do with battle meditation? No thanks.
Originally posted by Selenial
So I guess neither of you have an inkling of how to bull shit your way out of this quote, cool.
We already knew he does have BM. Try harder yourself. 👆