Bane and Zannah vs ROTS Sidious

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Originally posted by Selenial
Bane would get shat on in Sabers, even if Zannah's trying to attack a Telepath who's far superior to her.

If you're going to make arguments for them at least make good ones :/

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Sorcery TP is almost the same as basic TP. Sorcery just allows for more ways in which to attack one's mind, where they likely normally could not. The same resistance, willpower/mental barrier, is used to fight off both naturally strong telepaths and/or sorcerers who rely on magic for strong telepathic attacks.

Palpy.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Sorcery TP is almost the same as basic TP. Sorcery just allows for more ways in which to attack one's mind, where they likely normally could not. The same resistance, willpower/mental barrier, is used to fight off both naturally strong telepaths and/or sorcerers who rely on magic for strong telepathic attacks.

Agreed, and Sidious has shown immense willpower in the past. As Neph so helpfully points out, willpower does not increase proportionately to power. DE Sidious' willpower was so strong that it took all past Jedi to restrain him from returning to the physical world, his willpower was so strong be transcended the void with ease.

He won't be dominated like this by Zannah. Even if he is, the natural dark side instinct of someone affected like this (bearring in mind he'd cope better than Bane did) is to lash out with the force, instead of doing something that requires focus like dueling. If that happens it's already GG, since Zannah would be too tired from sorcery to defend herself.

Originally posted by Selenial
Agreed, and Sidious has shown immense willpower in the past.

Don't you mean the future? 😉

The princess is right, Neph. Get lost.

Sidious stomps. Zannahs powers can't penetrate the true Dark Lord of the Sith. Also his force powers are to much for them to handle. Adding ventress wouldn't help. Adding dooku might though.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Bane and Zannah both rounds. Sidious is the most powerful Sith, but both Bane and Zannah together is too much for any Sith/Jedi imo.

Sidious stomps them easily.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
The princess is right, Neph. Get lost.

Rude.

She isn't right, RotS Sidious doesn't have the pain tolerance and willpower of Bane and wouldn't cope significantly better enough with the attack to brush off the effects. Zannah does not need to dominate him, merely debilitate him. Maybe Sidious can overpower her spell. I'm giving you guys the benefit of the doubt. But not easily enough that he doesn't get cut down by Bane. She's also wrong about Sidious lashing out, since Zannah doesn't need to defend herself, she has Bane to do that. And Bane did not lash out in that manner, so she's completely talking out of her patoot. He needed to overcome the attack to be capable of doing that and he's not breezing through that.

Sidious succeeded in nearly bending the force to his will--in favor of the dark side, which Palpatine succeeded in taming (DESB, DSSB?).

Zannah better use every ounce of energy for defense.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Don't you mean the future? 😉

Well if that was your only argument to that post I'll accept your concession.

And no, he has shown it in the past.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Rude.

She isn't right, RotS Sidious doesn't have the pain tolerance and willpower of Bane and wouldn't cope significantly better enough with the attack to brush off the effects. Zannah does not need to dominate him, merely debilitate him. Maybe Sidious can overpower her spell. I'm giving you guys the benefit of the doubt. But not easily enough that he doesn't get cut down by Bane. She's also wrong about Sidious lashing out, since Zannah doesn't need to defend herself, she has Bane to do that. And Bane did not lash out in that manner, so she's completely talking out of her patoot. He needed to overcome the attack to be capable of doing that and he's not breezing through that.

Because bane is immensely inferior to Sidious and is obviously going to fair worse? God if you've spent this whole debate thinking Bane is in his league, I can see why you've yet to convince anyone of the teams superiority.

Lol.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Sidious succeeded in nearly bending the force to his will--in favor of the dark side, which Palpatine succeeded in taming (DESB, DSSB?).

Zannah better use every ounce of energy for defense.

And if Plagueis was here and Sidious got to meditate for a several months long ritual, maybe I'd actually consider that a real feat.

Team.

Originally posted by Selenial
Because bane is immensely inferior to Sidious and is obviously going to fair worse? God if you've spent this whole debate thinking Bane is in his league, I can see why you've yet to convince anyone of the teams superiority.
Originally posted by Kosmos Supreme
Team.

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Originally posted by Nephthys
Lol.

And if Plagueis was here and Sidious got to meditate for a several months long ritual, maybe I'd actually consider that a real feat.

It's still a testament to Sidious's own will, especially since he kept the force in check long after Plagueis's death. He was the force's target for that reason.

LOL @ Zannah's sorcery.

Originally posted by Nephthys
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LOL 👆

Originally posted by Nephthys
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You didn't convince him. That person was already insane.

Originally posted by Nephthys
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Isn't that your sock? I struggle to believe 170 posts in 4 years is a main account.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
You didn't convince him. That person was already insane.

👆

I don't even care, that irony was delicious. Also I don't sock, its way too risky. And I don't know how.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
It's still a testament to Sidious's own will, especially since he kept the force in check long after Plagueis's death. He was the force's target for that reason.

LOL @ Zannah's sorcery.

According to Double P, no counterforce rose to challenge them. After doing it, is there anything that Sidious would need to continue doing?