Originally posted by cdtm
I doubt that senile, decrepit old fool remembers what he writes episode to episode, let alone over the course of the franchise. Ask him ten different times about the size of the universe, you'd probably get ten different, conflicting answers.
You seem inordinately upset towards a guy who draws for a living.
Originally posted by AuraAngel
For someone so critical of the manga's art for a good chunk of it, why are you watching Super?
Why do people watch train wrecks?
So you can't watch something you're critical of? That would make for a pretty thin fan base..
And Toriyama, I respect. I give him the same respect I give to George Lucas. He created one of the most successful franchises ever.
And he got lazy. And hey, it's his right to do that. He earned his success.
But you can't call him hard working, or innovative, or a good mangaka, because he isn't. Which is a shame.. Early Toriyama was amazing. Love his Dr. Slump and early Dragon Ball.
Originally posted by cdtm
Why do people watch train wrecks?So you can't watch something you're critical of? That would make for a pretty thin fan base..
And Toriyama, I respect. I give him the same respect I give to George Lucas. He created one of the most successful franchises ever.
And he got lazy. And hey, it's his right to do that. He earned his success.
But you can't call him hard working, or innovative, or a good mangaka, because he isn't. Which is a shame.. Early Toriyama was amazing. Love his Dr. Slump and early Dragon Ball.
Because they are heartless and don't care that people are dying in a train wreck.
You obviously can. But going to a thread filled with people who seem to enjoying the thing and complaining is a childish waste of time. This isn't like a movie, where you can discuss the merits of a 2 hour flick. This is an ongoing television show that has frankly gotten better over time once it started trying to be something new instead of a retread. The point is if DBS disappointed you it likely happened months ago and the time for whining has long since past.
You respect him like George Lucas huh? Well considering how beloved Lucas is pardon me for rolling my eyes. By the way it's been thrown around that Toriyama himself isn't happy with the production of Super, which is more self awareness than anything George Lucas.
I never called him hard working, innovative, or a good mangaka(he was all of these things but as he is in retirement I suppose he technically isn't now), just that you're inordinately salty towards a guy that draws for a living. Which is still true because I'm sure a significant portion of these new designs were from him.