Dragon Ball Discussion Thread

Originally posted by Kento
Too be fair... Only 5 people know. The other gods and fighters don't. And Whis told Goku that they already decided so trying to get them to not to is hopeless.

Goku is a terrible hero. Oh every universe will be destroyed.. oh well wasn't my fault.

I don't know, but I hope Goku gets some kind of punishment for all this by the end if nothing else, or scolding from others besides Beerus.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
I can get not telling everyone about it so as to not cause mass panic, but at least certain others like Vegeta should've been let in on it. Only telling Gohan about it? lmao. smh... Even if everyone did know about it, it'd probably just amount to them all thinking "it's not our universe being destroyed if we win, so not our problem".

I don't know, but I hope Goku gets some kind of punishment for all this by the end if nothing else, or scolding from others besides Beerus.

Yea, everyone will want to live. But with the exception of Cabba so far there hasn't been to many heroic type characters. Goku is suppose to be all pure and everything but brushes off the death of eleven universes like nothing.

Ugh I was also nearly excited when Goku saw Goten and Trunks fighting and needed just two warriors. This would be a awesome time to have let them shine... Blah and seems like itll be another 50 episodes (exaggerating) til the actual tournament starts when Time and Broli are what got me excited for this arc.

These 3 from universe 9 may end up being 3 of their weakest, tbh.

Also, did anyone catch Zeno-Oh saying the wolf is really fast?

Goku blitzes Zen-Oh confirmed

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Also, did anyone catch Zeno-Oh saying the wolf is really fast?

Goku blitzes Zen-Oh confirmed

The Zens were still able to keep up with them though.

Originally posted by Kento
Too be fair... Only 5 people know. The other gods and fighters don't. And Whis told Goku that they already decided so trying to get them to not to is hopeless.

Goku is a terrible hero. Oh every universe will be destroyed.. oh well wasn't my fault.

YES!

The Buu saga was really the start of it, with Goku wanting the kids to have fun. IMO, Toriyama's doing it on purpose. He can't outright say Goku is a villain, but I'd bet you he's a fan of Groo the Wanderer, and see's Goku as more Groo then Superman.

Originally posted by carver9
The Zens were still able to keep up with them though.

Yep. It's funny to see how childlike the Zen-Ohs are, though. I'm starting to wonder whether or not they have limitless power, as it almost feels like they do.

Holy crap, he IS Groo the Wanderer..

Good for nothing but fighting, which he REALLY enjoys. Stupid, stuffs his face like a pig, leaves vast swaths of destruction in his wake..

Way too many points to be a coincidence. I bet you Toriyama read Sergios work and liked it..

So when Universe 7 wins, I'm pretty sure if Goku hasn't managed to convince Zen-kun to spare the others by then, they'll just wish them all back.

Also I'm still curious as to #2-4 power wise as Zen-chan is #1 and Grand Priest is #5.

And to hazard a guess Supreme, I'd say if he doesn't have it, he's about as close as you can get. He can destroy 18 universes all at the same time. That's pretty OP.

Grand Priest is #2:

1. Firstly, Whis saying "top 5" doesn't mean that Grand Priest is 5th.

2. The Manga states that the Grand Priest is the strongest fighter in the Multiverse (Zeno isn't considered a fighter, obviously)

3. The latest episode shows to me at least, that all of the gods and angels are inferior to/subservient to Daishinkan.

Like, the thing is that guys like Beerus (casual universe buster) and Whis (can oneshot Beerus) can't even HURT Zeno. There's no defined or foreseeable limit to what Zeno can do.

Casual universe buster. 😆

Beerus hasn't destroyed a single universe.

1. Suppressed Beerus' punches with suppressed Goku's punches were creating shockwaves that would have incinerated Universe 7, which is about the size of 2.2 standard universes assuming everything is to scale.

2. Suppressed Beerus (and Goku) were both pushing back and forth the Super dense energy ball that was going to incinerate the macrocosm.

3. Suppressed Beerus casually nullified the macrocosm-busting energy ball.

4. Beerus and Champa fighting would have destroyed both universes 6 and 7.

1. Unreliable narration. It was a bunch of Kaio's who didn't even know enough about Potera who said so.

Beerus and Champa are about as relevent as Thor and Herc piercing dimensional walls by slamming their fists together.

Also unsupported by further evidence. All Black-Zamasu devastated was the Earth, not the universe (Before merging with it.)

Except the ACTUAL narrator said that their punches were Universe-threatening, along with the Kaio's and Whis. It's the whole reason Goku was trying to meet Beerus at the same angle, because he knew that if he didn't, the universe would have been destroyed.

Except that Beerus has also casually nullified macrocosm busting energy, (confirmed by Whis and the Kaio's). Even furthermore, Beerus can erase Goku, who's currently faaar more powerful than his SSG-self.

What do Black and Zamasu have to do with this?

Guess no one thought about this but the fighters are currently fighting in an infinite void. Grand P said that in this Void they are able to unleash all of their power with no worries. We should see some amazing fts during this battle. Especially with us having Galaxies in the background.

Or we could see barely a firecracker light up, and I can enjoy the sweet, sweet tears of Fanboys losing the power argument. 😉

I'm not expecting any amazing, galaxy/universe busting feats from anyone other than the gods.

Goku could eat a galaxy and you would argue against it.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
I'm not expecting any amazing, galaxy/universe busting feats from anyone other than the gods.

Same here.

But Carver seems awfully sure of himself. So I propose a bet.

If no big feats happen in this void, we can assume they never will, and your side must concede the argument on Superman vs Goku.

And if there's, at a bare minimum, a galaxy wide feat, from ANYONE (Except Zeno, who I readily admit can bust universes), then I'll stop arguing the point.

Fair?

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Goku could eat a galaxy and you would argue against it.

😂