Vitiate (Ziost) vs Luke Skywalker - Force Only Battle

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Originally posted by psmith81992
Everyone should just stop arguing with him. He'll never stop.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Nyax draw off the power of the ancient Jedi temple?

He began to do so. But Luke followed suit and encouraged Mara and Tahiri to do the same.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
He began to do so. But Luke followed suit and encouraged Mara and Tahiri to do the same.

IIRC Nyax got amped insanely though - more than Luke (especially considering he was drawing off it longer). So there is your answer. 👆

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
IIRC Nyax got amped insanely though - more than Luke (especially considering he was drawing off it longer). So there is your answer. 👆

This is not officially implied in literature. All combatants involved, began to draw on the power of the nexus to fuel their own at a certain point, and situation more or less remained the same. Tide shifted when Tahiri managed to stab Nyax on the back using an ambush tactic that was made possible with her Vong augmentations and nature of the setting.

Luke Skywalker should be good at drawing power from a nexus to fuel his own.

Originally posted by Sinious
LOL sure.
I know, you just think I'm trying to save face. But I'm not. I legitimately and wholeheartedly disagree with your stance. But I am not interested in debating it to kingdom come.

I admit that you have me logically beat in the respect that no I cannot prove that Luke reached his full potential as envisioned by Lucas, but personally I think its self evident given what Luke is capable of, and what the writers realised Lucas was allowing them to do with him. If this were civil discussion about Luke's capabilities, I might go into that, but its not, as always its all about concessions and victories.

I'm not about that life, k?

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Lord Nyax > Luke Skywalker (NJO)

And he was tired of these creatures. They were weaker than he, but so stubborn. Even inventive.

Taken from [B]Enemy Lines - Rebel Stand [/B]

😬

Originally posted by Beniboybling
I know, you just think I'm trying to save face. But I'm not. I legitimately and wholeheartedly disagree with your stance. But I am not interested in debating it to kingdom come.

I admit that you have me logically beat in the respect that no I cannot prove that Luke reached his full potential as envisioned by Lucas, but personally I think its self evident given what Luke is capable of, and what the writers realised Lucas was allowing them to do with him. If this were civil discussion about Luke's capabilities, I might go into that, but its not, as always its all about concessions and victories.

I'm not about that life, k?


We accept your concession. Your failure is complete.

Darth Sidious have superior showings then Luke Skywalker, honestly.

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lol @ making people's concessions up for them and then accepting them.

I want to see how this turns out, though.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Darth Sidious have superior showings then Luke Skywalker, honestly.

Luke Skywalker cuts through hundreds of Yuuzhan Vong:
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Luke Skywalker kills 15 deadly Yuuzhan Vong warriors:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111140132/4271300-invasion1.1.jpg

Luke Skywalker telekinetically demolishes Yuuzhan Vong:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111140132/4271304-invasion3.1.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111140132/4271305-invasion3.2.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111140132/4271306-invasion3.3.jpg

Luke Skywalker telekinetically hurls a huge rock with ease:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111140132/4271301-invasion2.1.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111140132/4271302-invasion2.2.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111140132/4271303-invasion2.3.jpg

And that is just one comic series. 😉

Like I side I'm pretty sure Luke has his own planetary Force level feats, and he did stop the Moon consuming Force Storm with Leia.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
I know, you just think I'm trying to save face. But I'm not. I legitimately and wholeheartedly disagree with your stance. But I am not interested in debating it to kingdom come.

I admit that you have me logically beat in the respect that no I cannot prove that Luke reached his full potential as envisioned by Lucas,

👆

but personally I think its self evident given what Luke is capable of, and what the writers realised Lucas was allowing them to do with him. If this were civil discussion about Luke's capabilities, I might go into that, but its not, as always its all about concessions and victories.

I'm not about that life, k?

Its not about winning or losing. I sincerely believe that the Ultimate good guy of the mythos did not become twice more powerful than the ultimate bad guy. It doesn't make sense. And, my argument is not based on the lack of info regarding what GL envisioned.

But I won't go into this anymore since I achieved what I wanted to(which was to respectfully prove I'm right).

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Darth Sidious have superior showings then Luke Skywalker, honestly.

Pre-prime Luke defeated prime Sidious in a duel. WTF are you talking about?

Its not about winning or losing. I sincerely believe that the Ultimate good guy of the mythos did not become twice more powerful than the ultimate bad guy. It doesn't make sense. And, my argument is not based on the lack of info regarding what GL envisioned.

Nobody would believe this unless they intentionally misread Lucas' quotes.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Darth Sidious have superior showings then Luke Skywalker, honestly.

On a consistent basis? Agreed, tbh. Though Luke definitely has some outstanding showings here and there...

Originally posted by Sinious
👆

But I won't go into this anymore since I achieved what I wanted to(which was to respectfully prove I'm right).

...

Its not about winning or losing.

🙄

To be honest, I do think the implication was that Luke had more or less the same potential as his father. However, I think where people are going wrong is when they assume that if Anakin wasn't maimed he would have ever reached his full potential. IMO The only scenario where he could have truly achieved that is one where he remained on Mortis, tbh.

I think Anakin perhaps could have become what Luke is, or greater; but neither would have ever become 200% of Sidious, let's be honest.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
To be honest, I do think the implication was that Luke had more or less the same potential as his father. However, I think where people are going wrong is when they assume that if Anakin wasn't maimed he would have ever reached his full potential. IMO The only scenario where he could have truly achieved that is one where he remained on Mortis, tbh.

I think Anakin perhaps could have become what Luke is, or greater; but neither would have ever become 200% of Sidious, let's be honest.

That's a fair interpretation...

Well, presumably the Father of Mortis is what 200% of Sidious looks like.