(Rematch) The Hulk (MCU) VS Thor (MCU)

Started by Josh_Alexander64 pages

Originally posted by FrothByte
1. Prove that leviathans are covered in metal.

2. Even if they were covered in metal, that doesn't explain why lightning was able to punch holes through them. If anything, being conductive should have dispersed electricity around them instead of allowing it to pool in a concentrated burst enough to punch holes through them.

3. Thor's lightning blasts pack a pretty hefty kinetic punch, otherwise they wouldn't be able to punch holes through leviathans, shatter ice and concrete or knock opponents around. Last time I checked, Hulk was vulnerable to high amounts of kinetic impact.

4. You still haven't shown any proof of Hulk tanking a hit strong enough to destroy multiple acres of land.

5. Heck, you never even proved Hulk is immune to being electrocuted.

1. Are you gonna begin trolling?

2. The lightning hit specific points in the armor.

The Leviathans got cooked in their armors.

https://youtu.be/bBYHtBPbBJE

What happens to metal when electrically overload.

Even after the metal distributed the electricity all over he leviathan it then overloaded causing it to increase in temperature and even maybe melting.

https://youtu.be/WbLI-mk6R-0

Clearly evident in the video. The charge was so extreme it even melted the Leviathan's armor.

3.The Kinetic impact i would agree. However most of a lightning's damage is attributed to the electricity and the Extreme heat it releases.

Hulk has seen to be inmune to heat. Now you havent prove that Hulk's Body is vulnerable to electricity.

All you can argue really would be what effect would kinetic impact have on the Hulk.

I really doubt it is strong enough to inmovilize him.

4.Again, a feat attributed to electricity not force of impact.

5. Its you who has to prove he is vulnerable to it, since its you the one bringing the point.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Wrong, as Thor actually took out more. Hawkeye even stated that Thor was fighting an entire squadron by himself at one point.

Even in the Avengers. a non holding back Thor > Hulk in power.

We were talking about durability not who draws more power.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
We were talking about durability not who draws more power.

Good, because Thor has better durability feats. so thank you for agreeing that Thor is more durable.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
I’m sorry where was the physics in my statement?

I’m saying let’s go with your “Lightning no hurt Hulk” theory. So you admit then that Thor was matching/beating Hulk in a pure physical punch up. Since according to you his Lightning punch would be no different to a Non-Lightning punch against Hulk.

Am I right?

Electricity carries 3 main types of energy:

1. Electrical energy (Main one).
2. Heat Energy
3. Kinetic Energy.

One could argue that Thors punches get stronger when charged due to the kinetic energies released by it.

Doesnt mean that Hulk got electrocuted when fighting Hulk. Just means Thors punches were stronger due to the kinetic energy released by the electricity.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Good, because Thor has better durability feats. so thank you for agreeing that Thor is more durable.

You are too stupid to realize that i never said that so arguing is useless.

Keep dreaming SM.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Electricity carries 3 main types of energy:

1. Electrical energy (Main one).
2. Heat Energy
3. Kinetic Energy.

One could argue that Thors punches get stronger when charged due to the kinetic energies released by it.

Doesnt mean that Hulk got electrocuted when fighting Hulk. Just means Thors punches were stronger due to the kinetic energy released by the electricity.

Edit: When fighting Thor.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
You are too stupid to realize that i never said that so arguing is useless.

Keep dreaming SM.

It's the truth though, Thor does have better durability feats. you refusing to say it just proves to the board how biased you are.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
1. Are you gonna begin trolling?

2. The lightning hit specific points in the armor.

The Leviathans got cooked in their armors.

https://youtu.be/bBYHtBPbBJE

What happens to metal when electrically overload.

Even after the metal distributed the electricity all over he leviathan it then overloaded causing it to increase in temperature and even maybe melting.

https://youtu.be/WbLI-mk6R-0

Clearly evident in the video. The charge was so extreme it even melted the Leviathan's armor.

3.The Kinetic impact i would agree. However most of a lightning's damage is attributed to the electricity and the Extreme heat it releases.

Hulk has seen to be inmune to heat. Now you havent prove that Hulk's Body is vulnerable to electricity.

All you can argue really would be what effect would kinetic impact have on the Hulk.

I really doubt it is strong enough to inmovilize him.

4.Again, a feat attributed to electricity not force of impact.

5. Its you who has to prove he is vulnerable to it, since its you the one bringing the point.

1. I'm just using your same tactics against you. Prove that they were metal.

2. Yeah the leviathans got cooked, but they also had holes blasted through them. That also doesn't answer the question of how Thor's lightning can smash up entire acres of land. And no real lightning has ever been as powerful as Thor's lightning.

3 and 5. I'm sorry, but I'm not the one claiming that Hulk has some kind of power that was never showed on screen. Hulk has never been shown to be immune to heat and electricity. If you want to claim that he suddenly developed a superpower he never showed, it's up to you to prove it. You can't just invent powers for characters you like and expect them to be true. Or do you even understand the concept of proof?

4. So electricity can destroy acres of land and create shockwaves? Prove it.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Electricity carries 3 main types of energy:

1. Electrical energy (Main one).
2. Heat Energy
3. Kinetic Energy.

One could argue that Thors punches get stronger when charged due to the kinetic energies released by it.

Doesnt mean that Hulk got electrocuted when fighting Hulk. Just means Thors punches were stronger due to the kinetic energy released by the electricity.

Still waiting for you to prove that Hulk is immune to electricity. You know you can't just invent a superpower for a character right?

Originally posted by FrothByte
1. I'm just using your same tactics against you. Prove that they were metal.

2. Yeah the leviathans got cooked, but they also had holes blasted through them. That also doesn't answer the question of how Thor's lightning can smash up entire acres of land. And no real lightning has ever been as powerful as Thor's lightning.

3 and 5. I'm sorry, but I'm not the one claiming that Hulk has some kind of power that was never showed on screen. Hulk has never been shown to be immune to heat and electricity. If you want to claim that he suddenly developed a superpower he never showed, it's up to you to prove it. You can't just invent powers for characters you like and expect them to be true. Or do you even understand the concept of proof?

4. So electricity can destroy acres of land and create shockwaves? Prove it.

1. I dont have to prove what is obvious.

2. Didnt you saw the video i posted?

Because their cells got so charged that they burst!

3. Remember tha land was struck using Mjolnir! The kinectic force of Mjolnir + Lightning should answer the question.

4. Yes you are. Hulk being is a brute beast immune to everything else shown otherwise.

Hulk survived the void of space and touching Surtur. If you want to claim electricity affects him the prove it.

4. A charged Hammer used by a human with superstrength can.

Originally posted by Silent Master
It's the truth though, Thor does have better durability feats. you refusing to say it just proves to the board how biased you are.

You claiming Thor is more durable than the Hulk is being biased.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Electricity carries 3 main types of energy:

1. Electrical energy (Main one).
2. Heat Energy
3. Kinetic Energy.

One could argue that Thors punches get stronger when charged due to the kinetic energies released by it.

Doesnt mean that Hulk got electrocuted when fighting Hulk. Just means Thors punches were stronger due to the kinetic energy released by the electricity.

Ah so Lightning can hurt Hulk due to the kinetic energy if nothing else.

Gotcha 👆

Obviously we all know Hulk is completely immune to Heat and Electrical energy as he's proven countless times 😬

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
You claiming Thor is more durable than the Hulk is being biased.

So going by what the movies actually show is being biased, ok then.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
1. I dont have to prove what is obvious.

2. Didnt you saw the video i posted?

Because their cells got so charged that they burst!

3. Remember tha land was struck using Mjolnir! The kinectic force of Mjolnir + Lightning should answer the question.

4. Yes you are. Hulk being is a brute beast immune to everything else shown otherwise.

Hulk survived the void of space and touching Surtur. If you want to claim electricity affects him the prove it.

4. A charged Hammer used by a human with superstrength can.

1. So you believe that giant alien flying lizards are somehow made of earth elements?

2. I saw the video you posted, but you yourself said that lightning packs kinetic energy. So why are you active like kinetic energy didn't contribute to punching holes through the leviathans?

3. In Jotunheim, Thor never struck the ground with Mjolnir. He called down lightning at tapped the handle of Mjolnir on the ground. Lightning was what caused the shockwave and the corresponding destruction.

4. Immune to everything? Wow, you've really gone over the deep end have you. I know you're a Hulk fanboy but that's some serious fanatic wanking. Hulk is immune to things he's been shown immune to. If he doesn't have an onscreen feat to support it, then he can't do it. All you're doing now is trying to invent additional powers for him because you know he can't defeat Thor unless you wank him further. It's honestly quite pathetic.

5. It's simple really, you think Hulk is immune to electricity all you need to do is post a video showing Hulk is immune to electricity.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Ah so Lightning can hurt Hulk due to the kinetic energy if nothing else.

Gotcha 👆

Obviously we all know Hulk is completely immune to Heat and Electrical energy as he's proven countless times 😬

I never said a Lightning bolt wouldn't hurt the hulk. I said ELECTRICITY wouldn't hurt it since it's not proven.

Originally posted by FrothByte
1. So you believe that giant alien flying lizards are somehow made of earth elements?

2. I saw the video you posted, but you yourself said that lightning packs kinetic energy. So why are you active like kinetic energy didn't contribute to punching holes through the leviathans?

3. In Jotunheim, Thor never struck the ground with Mjolnir. He called down lightning at tapped the handle of Mjolnir on the ground. Lightning was what caused the shockwave and the corresponding destruction.

4. Immune to everything? Wow, you've really gone over the deep end have you. I know you're a Hulk fanboy but that's some serious fanatic wanking. Hulk is immune to things he's been shown immune to. If he doesn't have an onscreen feat to support it, then he can't do it. All you're doing now is trying to invent additional powers for him because you know he can't defeat Thor unless you wank him further. It's honestly quite pathetic.

5. It's simple really, you think Hulk is immune to electricity all you need to do is post a video showing Hulk is immune to electricity.

1. WTH? Who told you metals are confined to Earth? Every planet has metals! You know what a metal is right?

2. Am not saying the KE didn't affect the Leviathan's.

Kinetic Energy did make an impact, but the main hazzard was the Electricity.

The Hole in the Leviathan's armor was caused by a convination of Electricity, Heat, and Kinetic energy.

However we know Hulk is immune to Heat, and can withstand Kinetic Energy quite well.

3. I don't disagree.

4. You need to stop considering the Hulk a normal human dude! You can't go arround saying:

HEY GUYS GUESS WHAT!! SINCE HULK WAS NEVER BITTEN ON SCREEN BY A SNAKE, THEN HE IS OBVIOUSLY VULNERABLE TO IT!!! WOW AM SO SMART!!!

That's stupid. Hulk's anathomy isn't like a normal human. If you want to claim Hulk is vulnerable to a certain thing then YOU GOT TO PROVE IT MY FRIEND. UNTIL YOU PROVE IT, then it is just a SPECULATION since it's not proven/disproven via screen feats.

Again, I thought you didn't use SPECULATION.

I am just a well informed person on Marvel's characters/universe, I will give my opinion based on what i KNOW. I like both Hulk and Thor, I don't prefer any of them.

5. The leviathan's armor clearly conducts electricity right?

You do love your no limit fallacies.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You do love your no limit fallacies.

You do love Thor to consider him more durable than Hulk 😂

Changing the topic, means you have no defense to my claim that you were using a no limit fallacy.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I never said a Lightning bolt wouldn't hurt the hulk. I said ELECTRICITY wouldn't hurt it since it's not proven.

1. WTH? Who told you metals are confined to Earth? Every planet has metals! You know what a metal is right?

2. Am not saying the KE didn't affect the Leviathan's.

Kinetic Energy did make an impact, but the main hazzard was the Electricity.

The Hole in the Leviathan's armor was caused by a convination of Electricity, Heat, and Kinetic energy.

However we know Hulk is immune to Heat, and can withstand Kinetic Energy quite well.

3. I don't disagree.

4. You need to stop considering the Hulk a normal human dude! You can't go arround saying:

HEY GUYS GUESS WHAT!! SINCE HULK WAS NEVER BITTEN ON SCREEN BY A SNAKE, THEN HE IS OBVIOUSLY VULNERABLE TO IT!!! WOW AM SO SMART!!!

That's stupid. Hulk's anathomy isn't like a normal human. If you want to claim Hulk is vulnerable to a certain thing then YOU GOT TO PROVE IT MY FRIEND. UNTIL YOU PROVE IT, then it is just a SPECULATION since it's not proven/disproven via screen feats.

Again, I thought you didn't use SPECULATION.

I am just a well informed person on Marvel's characters/universe, I will give my opinion based on what i KNOW. I like both Hulk and Thor, I don't prefer any of them.

5. The leviathan's armor clearly conducts electricity right?

1. And yet you actually have no proof that they're made of metal do you? Just because they "look" like metal doesn't mean they're metal. And even if they're metal, different types of metal conduct electricity in different magnitudes. You can't just assume these things without proof.

2. I never said that heat and electricity wasn't part of it, I'm just saying you can't act like it was purely electricity and that it only worked because they were covered in "metal".

4. All living creatures in this Earth are affected by electricity one way or another. Some are more resistant than others but none are completely immune. Hulk is more than just human but that doesn't mean that he's suddenly immune to everything. He still feels physical pain, it just so happens that he's more resistant to it, but he's not immune. Using the same logic, we can assume he's more resistant to electrocution than the average human, that doesn't mean he's completely immune to it. There's also the fact that Thor's lightning is a lot more powerful than just regular lightning.

5. Like I said, if you want to claim that Hulk is immune to heat and electricity, you'll need to prove it. Because right now all you're doing is inventing stuff from thin air.

Originally posted by FrothByte
1. And yet you actually have no proof that they're made of metal do you? Just because they "look" like metal doesn't mean they're metal. And even if they're metal, different types of metal conduct electricity in different magnitudes. You can't just assume these things without proof.

2. I never said that heat and electricity wasn't part of it, I'm just saying you can't act like it was purely electricity and that it only worked because they were covered in "metal".

4. All living creatures in this Earth are affected by electricity one way or another. Some are more resistant than others but none are completely immune. Hulk is more than just human but that doesn't mean that he's suddenly immune to everything. He still feels physical pain, it just so happens that he's more resistant to it, but he's not immune. Using the same logic, we can assume he's more resistant to electrocution than the average human, that doesn't mean he's completely immune to it. There's also the fact that Thor's lightning is a lot more powerful than just regular lightning.

5. Like I said, if you want to claim that Hulk is immune to heat and electricity, you'll need to prove it. Because right now all you're doing is inventing stuff from thin air.

1. It looks like metal! If it looks like metal then it is metal most likely. If it isn't metal then you must present evidence strong enough to rebuke its physical aspect.

Do you have evidence saying it is not metal?

Even if it isn't metal. It clearly conducts electricity as seen in when the Lightning stroke the armor. So it doesn't really matter, it has the same properties as a metal (conducts electricity).

2. FrothByte, i never said a Lightning would cause 0 damage on the Hulk. I said that ELECTRICITY isn't proven to damage the Hulk.

The Lightning could harm the Hulk. But a Lightning's main hazzard is it's electricity. The raw impact of the Lightning wouldn't prove enough to defeat the Hulk.

3. Yes. But the Hulk has seen to withstand things NO LIVING ORGANISM COULD! e.g. Void of Space, Extreme Heats, Extreme impacts, etc.

You need to understand that saying something would harm the hulk taking the above into consideration would require proof of it!

4. The Leviathan's armor conducts electricity right? It's obvious a metal. However you want to turn the blind eye to it! Doesn't really matter.

You agree that the Armor conducts electricity as clearly seen on the battle of NY?