Cronal vs Revan (Galactic war)

Started by Zenwolf4 pages
Originally posted by Selenial
Meh, he was a Dark Lord at that point. Wanted to weaken the republic. Not stupid, it's Genius.

Yeah but doing it during the middle of a war?....Still stupid imo, you don't just kill others because they are loyal to one of your other officers instead of you, that's just wasting men that could be used.

Well clearly then you don't understand Revan's plan, do you?
http://www.comicvine.com/profile/darthant66/blog/the-power-of-darth-revan-overview/103361/.

I understand it, doesn't mean that I don't find it ridiculous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1DcD8e55YY

Cronal made a volcano into a space ship. :iwin:

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Yeah but doing it during the middle of a war?....Still stupid imo, you don't just kill others because they are loyal to one of your other officers instead of you, that's just wasting men that could be used.

Well it was at the end of a war, the Mandalorians were defeated whatever happened.

What it actually was, was massacring the force that would rise up to oppose you. Had Revan returned to conquer, he would have been met with a force larger than his own with a far stronger power base and intimate knowledge of his forces. Not to mention a General who would pose a very serious threat.

He took out the General, the majority of said force and did it all without anyone raising an eyebrow...

It was a subtle process, too. He broke his forces slowly - especially at Dxun. By Malachor, his fleet had unwavering loyalty to him. He cemented this by calling upon the power of Malachor to turn them into his ultimate minions.

Originally posted by WildBantha88
Cronal made a volcano into a space ship. :iwin:

Revan made the Republic his b!tch :iwin:

Originally posted by Selenial
Well it was at the end of a war, the Mandalorians were defeated whatever happened.

What it actually was, was massacring the force that would rise up to oppose you. Had Revan returned to conquer, he would have been met with a force larger than his own with a far stronger power base and intimate knowledge of his forces. Not to mention a General who would pose a very serious threat.

He took out the General, the majority of said force and did it all without anyone raising an eyebrow...

Still doesn't make it any less ridiculous, he wanted them loyal he could have done it differently too.

But /shrug, it's w/e

He wanted them more than just loyal. 😬

At any rate, Bantha you kinda made this vague. You say they have Empires at equal strength....so does this mean that numbers and so forth are equal and that the troopers, ships, equipment etc are different?

Or do they have the same exact Empire down to the tiniest detail?

Would be kinda uneventful then because it's all the same thing.

What? This is a galactic war with two Empires yes? Bantha just said equal strength, which doesn't say much.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Sure, and Revan had the other half. He came in and turned the tide of the battle in their favor.

I'm not saying I agree with Seleniel on this subject, but this alone doesn't necessarily mean Revan is the better tactician. More than doubling the forces of one of the sides in a battle is going to be a gamechanger, regardless of who is leading said forces.

I never said it did. I was merely trying to figure out what places Surik as an equal to Revan.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Seleniel

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Also: Yeh, DMB's right Ant. No one's even saying she's better than him as an overall Tactician, don't get why you won't listen when we say Surik's decent. She was given more of a force than him for a reason, he directed the war not fought the battles.

Since when was she given more of a force than Revan? Wasn't their fleets at Malachor split in half, with Surik getting the shitty half?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Since when was she given more of a force than Revan? Wasn't their fleets at Malachor split in half, with Surik getting the shitty half?

During the War she was given half the Republic Military. Seeing as Malak led his own arm of the forces, that means Revan would have had less than her.

At Malachor, I'm not sure anyone's ever said it was split in half. Revan had the reinforcements, Surik had the bulk of the fleet that was used to lure the Mandalorians in in the first place.

She was given the Republic military, but her campaigns and instructions were still from Revan. It's how Revan was able to make Dxun such a big success without not publicly leading it.
Can I have a source for Malak leading his own forces? Everything I've ever seen points he was the forefront of the ground assaults - never an actual military leader who strategized stuff.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
She was given the Republic military, but her campaigns and instructions were still from Revan. It's how Revan was able to make Dxun such a big success without not publicly leading it.
Can I have a source for Malak leading his own forces? Everything I've ever seen points he was the forefront of the ground assaults - never an actual military leader who strategized stuff.

Well that's what I'm saying, Revan organised the war.

And Dxun was Surik and Revan leading the force together to be honest, not that that is even remotely close to a Strategic feat. They both realised they had no choice, no tactics available because they had to destroy the Dxun camps before Onderon fell, so they threw troop after troop into the dirt to die.

Not really brilliant tactics, just something that had to be done.