Ulic-Qel Droma (Freedon Nadd Uprising) vs Darth Nihl

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Ulic-Qel Droma (Freedon Nadd Uprising) vs Darth Nihl

Ulic at the end of the Freedon Nadd Uprising, when he was still a Jedi.

Darth Nihl in his prime.

Who wins?

Nihl.

Ulic Qel-Droma, as a Jedi he was the best swordsman in the Order. His shitstomping of Warb Null and Ommin was very impressive.

Ulic was already on his way of becoming the strongest Jedi in his era.

You could make the argument that he already was considering that Nomi doesn't have a lot of combat feats.

>implying that elevates him above Nihl who was Krayt's best duelist

TOTJ era has guys like Thon who can force an entire Force nexus of Ambria that was originally planetary to be the size of Lake Natth.

I fail to see how that helps Ulic in a duel.

Because he is the best duelist from an Order that not forty years later is stated to be the most experienced and well-trained in combat ever, including the PT.

Other than Cade Nihl never faced a truly powerful opponent. Did he?

He had to batman Kol Skywalker whom was soloing his army.

Originally posted by Col. Valerian
Other than Cade Nihl never faced a truly powerful opponent. Did he?
>implying we're meant to ignore his fight against Cade

He mainly fought Cade, but what you need to understand is that Nihl's position as Krayt's top enforcer puts him ahead of some very skilled people. Lesser members of the Order, Darths Kruhl and Havok, gave even fights to the two best Imperial Knights (Antares and Roan) in lightsaber combat. Antares is rocking feats like wiping out 5 Sith in one comic panel, being one of the few who survived the invasion on the hidden Jedi temple (essentially taking on dozens of Sith and Sith troopers at a time), and basically leading the army of Imperial Knights who finally wiped out the One Sith in a battle comprised of hundreds on either side. He's an elite duelist, yet he essentially stalemated with Roan and Havok, who are both confirmed as being below Nihl.

Nihl's also considered better than Talon, who's rocking feats like getting the upper hand against Shado Vao and Wolf Sazen at the same time (both capable of soloing groups of Sith at a time, and Shado also held his own against a Vong Warrior, which is insane when you consider the second Vong had Cade pinned to the floor in the same circumstances). Nihl also destroyed Sazen the first time they fought, utterly and completely.

TL;DR, there's a reason Nihl is the only person outside of Krayt to give Cade a seriously good fight in Legacy. I like Ulic too, but he doesn't have the feats at this point in time to justify outskilling Nihl. Nihl's feats are more impressive and better documented.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Because he is the best duelist from an Order that not forty years later is stated to be the most experienced and well-trained in combat ever, including the PT.
I've only seen quotes saying he is "perhaps" the greatest of his time, and I believe even that quote is post-Nadd Uprising. Either way, pretending that is somehow enough to put Ulic ahead of Nihl is just silly.

Originally posted by AncientPower
He had to batman Kol Skywalker whom was soloing his army.
And this is where I stop taking you seriously.

So him avoiding Kol and then slamming him in the back with a burst of Force Lightning whilst he was busy adding to the small hill of dead Sith he was stood on is ignorable? Sorry Jensaarai1 but I don't particularly care how seriously you take me.

Originally posted by AncientPower
So him avoiding Kol and then slamming him in the back with a burst of Force Lightning whilst he was busy adding to the small hill of dead Sith he was stood on is ignorable?
1. Your logic is lolworthy. Kol doing well against a group of Sith by himself is why he is a badass. Ulic would have died under the same circumstances.

2. Yes, it's ignorable, because Nihl wasn't actively avoiding him. He just killed him at an opportune moment. Acting like that event alone rules out Nihl's chances of winning this thread is quite simply retarded. Unless you want me to post up some scans of Ulic losing to a f*cking training droid? 😂

Sorry Jensaarai1 but I don't particularly care how seriously you take me.
You're just mad my videos make your posts look like alphabet spaghetti nigga.

I am basing nothing off of Nihl's preference to engage Kol indirectly, I am merely contributing to Valerian's request for top dogs he has actually fought.

But hey if you want to go around calling others retarded for not sharing your divine wisdom, have fun in that schoolyard.

Ah, you make it too easy sometimes Ancient.

Originally posted by AncientPower
I am basing nothing off of Nihl's preference to engage Kol indirectly, I am merely contributing to Valerian's request for top dogs he has actually fought.

But hey if you want to go around calling others retarded for not sharing your divine wisdom, have fun in that schoolyard.

1.

>basing nothing on Kol fight
>discussion then becomes redundant
>or bullshitting because your logic sucked

2.

>didn't call you retarded
>called your argument retarded

My logic does not 'suck', fact is Nihl didn't take on Kol directly, instead he struck him in the back with Force Lightning, presumably because he saw Kol was kicking their collective asses and didn't want any part of that. Redundant in terms of answering Col. Valerian's question? nope.

Calling someone's argument retarded implies they themselves are retarded by extension.

Try harder Jenny.

There is one distinct difference between calling an argument retarded and calling it's creator such. And that's that there's hope for you yet, Power; the chance of glorious redemption. The same cannot be said for your argument.

Originally posted by AncientPower
My logic does not 'suck', fact is Nihl didn't take on Kol directly, instead he struck him in the back with Force Lightning, presumably because he saw Kol was kicking their collective asses and didn't want any part of that. Redundant in terms of answering Col. Valerian's question? nope.
So you're making an assumption based on nothing, is what you're telling me? Cool man. You're good at this.
Calling someone's argument retarded implies they themselves are retarded by extension.
Not by necessity, but if you're this determined to be offended then the shoe is there to step in, amigo.
Try harder Jenny.
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Anyway, I'm glad we've established that Nihl wins. 👆