Ulic-Qel Droma (Freedon Nadd Uprising) vs Darth Nihl

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AncientPower The Chosen One

Based on the fact Nihl had preo and could have Malgus' d his ass if he had the disposition for it, if he was as great as he was supposed to be he should have been able to take Kol head on, not allow dozens if not hundreds of his men to get lolstomped first.

I am merely pointing out the logical fallacy you walked into by attempting to separate the two. Not that it matters because you misunderstood the point that statement was making anyway.

Nihl wins when he has speed feats on Ulic tier and proves he is Baas tier with that pike, which he is clearly using to compensate for something with.

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Originally posted by AncientPower
Based on the fact Nihl had preo and could have Malgus' d his ass if he had the disposition for it, if he was as great as he was supposed to be he should have been able to take Kol head on, not allow dozens if not hundreds of his men to get lolstomped first.
So now you are using it as the basis for an argument. Good, it took you a few posts but we're finally here. Here's my rebuttal:

Nihl is as great as he's supposed to be. Kol is just a monster. A monster that Nihl decided to wipe out with lightning. Not seeing how this affects this thread, unless Ulic's da greaterst jerdai evur quote applies to Kol as well now? 😂

Ignorance is no excuse either. I've gone into adequate detail on Nihl's feats.

Also, source for Kol killing "dozens if not hundreds" of Sith? I counted 6. So did Cade.

I am merely pointing out the logical fallacy you walked into by attempting to separate the two. Not that it matters because you misunderstood the point that statement was making anyway.
What logical fallacy? I can call your argument retarded without calling you retarded by extension. Your argument can end up being retarded for a number of reasons; a lack of information; glaring bias at the roots; you're having an off day. You sure are making a big deal out of something you're not right about 😂

I didn't misunderstand anything, because as we've discovered in your latest post, the point about Kol was to demonstrate that Nihl "isn't as great as he is".

Nihl wins when he has speed feats on Ulic tier
How about being in the same speed tier as Krayt?
and proves he is Baas tier with that pike
Let's see.. oh, wait. I already posted Nihl's feats. You know what would be great, though? If you demonstrated why Vodo's feats with his staff correlate to Uprising!Ulic.
which he is clearly using to compensate for something with.
Probably. There is a bit of that going around.

AncientPower The Chosen One

You applied it to the main topic despite the fact I was pointing out that he batman'd Kol in answer to Valerian's post.

Kol and Cade killed dozens of Sith, sith troopers and more, before Kol went all Leonidas.

I am nit making a big deal, you were the one who started on about whether you take me seriously, as if I cared in the first place. Then you stated my argument was retarded because you misplaced the topic it was going over.

You did and continue to misunderstand that it was in reply to Valerian's question, not an argument for Ulic.

Nihl is not in the same speed tier as Krayt, he isn't even Wyyrlok III tier.

Because Jedi Ulic was the best swordsman in the Order at one point.

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Originally posted by AncientPower
You applied it to the main topic despite the fact I was pointing out that he batman'd Kol in answer to Valerian's post.
You applied it to the main topic when you started talking about how it affects Nihl as a fighter. Just break your keyboard already, brobiscuit.
Kol and Cade killed dozens of Sith, sith troopers and more, before Kol went all Leonidas.
I find it hard to believe they killed any Sith Troopers, considering they only first graced the battlefield over seven years after the Massacre at Ossus. Yeno, in Legacy: War? 😂

Source for Cade and Kol killing dozens though? I wouldn't mind having that Legacy wank as much as I wouldn't mind you being wrong again.

I am nit making a big deal, you were the one who started on about whether you take me seriously, as if I cared in the first place. Then you stated my argument was retarded because you misplaced the topic it was going over.
So you both concede that there was no logical fallacy on my part, and are still denying that the point about Kol was a jab at Nihl's ability as a fighter relative to this thread even after stating as much? Holy shit, bro. 😂
You did and continue to misunderstand that it was in reply to Valerian's question, not an argument for Ulic.
So the discussion about "powerful characters Nihl has fought" was never intended to help build a case for why he's inferior to Ulic? I wish I could bullshit this much without feeling guilty.
Nihl is not in the same speed tier as Krayt, he isn't even Wyyrlok III tier.
Considering he had a lengthy fight with the same Cade Skywalker who had an almost equivalently lengthy fight with Krayt, I fail to see how Nihl isn't in Krayt's general speed tier. I'm loling at Wyyrlok III of all people being more than a tier ahead of Nihl in regards to speed though. Literally all he's done is exchange a few blows with Krayt among some other loosely combative Force feats. This is another example of a retarded argument. Try not to get too beat up about this one though 👆

Also, I'm dying to hear what logic you're using for Ulic's speed being a deciding factor against Nihl.

Because Jedi Ulic was the best swordsman in the Order at one point.
You keep saying that. I'm wondering where the source is. I'd love to stick it in my Ulic respect thread. Unless you're bullshitting again?

Maybe you just don't know how providing a source works? Lemme give you an example.

Nihl was Krayt's top enforcer and assassin, so I'm not seeing why Ulic's hype is superior, especially if you compare the feats of the people they are actually better than.

--Source: Legacy #0.5

It's not too difficult.

SunRazer Back From The Dead

Sources claim Kun as a Jedi was the best swordsman in the Order. Ulic was about his equal, though.

And Nihl wins out against this version of Ulic.

Q99 Senior Member

I feel Vodo should solidly be better than *this* Ulic.