Who can stop not one but TWO Vitiates

Started by S_W_LeGenD5 pages

Originally posted by Stigma
Well, the team lost to Vitiate.

RotS Sidious/Yoda have comparable force power and much better speed/sabers feats.

It's only logical they'll do as good (better) against the team.


Only Revan fought Vitiate. It is however stated that Vitiate could defeat Revan along-with his allies, should this Strike Team confront him. Not just this, but Vitiate defeated an entire Dark Council earlier.

Sidious (ROTS) and Yoda cannot defeat Revan easily, let alone the referred Strike Team.

Much better speed/saber feats, is your assumption. Revan is also stated to be lightning fast, swing his lightsaber in blurs, and more importantly stomped a Jedi Knight level opponent in a lightsaber duel.

Yoda disarmed Sidious according to Junior novelization and the RotS script. He also contained his FL until the explotion tore them apart.

After that, he needed to flee as he failed to kill Sidious. /in a nutshell

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Sidious (ROTS) and Yoda cannot defeat Revan easily, let alone the referred Strike Team.

Why?

They have comparable force-power to Vitiate and better speed/saber feats.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Revan is stated to be lightning fast, blur and blah blah.

Yeah, I guess Revan's blah blah power is what keeps brining him back from death.

Nah, the newest canonical source, which overwrites the old, says he lost:

"Their deadly battle takes them into the vast Senate chamber, where the Emperor uses the dark side of the Force to hurl Senate pods at Yoda, and blasts him with lightning. The Jedi Master is overwhelmed and plummets the chamber floor. Too weak to continue the fighting, Yoda barely manages to escape to the safety of Senator Organa's airspeeder." --Star Wars: Journeys (2015)

I've got my doubts about the canonicity of an app game. That said, he has ways lost. He admits as much in RotS.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Nah, the newest canonical source, which overwrites the old, says he lost:

"Their deadly battle takes them into the vast Senate chamber, where the Emperor uses the dark side of the Force to hurl Senate pods at Yoda, and blasts him with lightning. The Jedi Master is overwhelmed and plummets the chamber floor. Too weak to continue the fighting, Yoda barely manages to escape to the safety of Senator Organa's airspeeder." --Star Wars: Journeys (2015)


Interesting.mmm

Either way, we have depiction of this fight in both the movie and novels and Yoda is a clear match until he ... loses, apparently. Need to know more about the validity of that source.

That, and a few other feats put him above Revan still.

@ares: Disney seems to be on top of the game with the canon stuff, tbh. It's not like old Scholastic that publishes whatever they want. The game literally copy and pastes stuff directly from official starwars.com.

Originally posted by ares834
I've got my doubts about the canonicity of an app game. That said, he has ways lost. He admits as much in RotS.

Yoda admits he failed. Failed to kill Sidious.

failed =/= lost.

From the looks of it, it was a clear stalemate.

This is a challenging gauntlet, even the first 2 rounds aren't that easy.

4/5/6 are all challenging fights. However, they should stop either at 7 or 8.

This is assuming he doesn't get his Ziost feats.

Originally posted by Stigma
Yoda admits he failed. Failed to kill Sidious.

failed =/= lost.

From the looks of it, it was a clear stalemate.

Yoda runs after being knocked down hundreds of feet. He lost.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
@ares: Disney seems to be on top of the game with the canon stuff, tbh. It's not like old Scholastic that publishes whatever they want. The game literally copy and pastes stuff directly from official starwars.com.

Perhaps. Although I've heard Jaina Solo appears in one of the web games.

Which one?

stops at 2 -.-

Originally posted by Stigma
Why?

They have comparable force-power to Vitiate and better speed/saber feats.


They don't actually. Vitiate have superior feats then both.

Also, Vitiate is so powerful, he doesn't needs a Lightsaber to overcome opponents.

Originally posted by Stigma
Yeah, I guess Revan's blah blah power is what keeps brining him back from death.

Revan is among the most powerful Jedi ever.

Originally posted by ares834
Yoda runs after being knocked down hundreds of feet. He lost.

He was knocked down by chance, though. Just happend to be at the verge of the platform.

Sidious was also almost thrown off by explosion and he'd to be knocked down hundreds of feet too if not for the fact that he was at the center of the pod when the explosion happened.

Bottom line is this: neither bested the other in the direct confrontation of power vs. power.

Yoda failed in his mission, but he was not beaten is the purest sense of a fight.

You could argue that Sidious beat him stategically, though.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Revan is among the most powerful Jedi ever.

Well, duh.

Yoda was overpowered by Sidious' lightning - hence the "defeat".

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Which one?

Apparently Galactic Spy.

Yes, Sidious used the environment much better and showed superior usage of TK as well.

The entire characteristics of the fight tells me Sidious was at the winning side of that stalemate for some reason.

Originally posted by Stigma
He was knocked out by chance, though. Just happend to be at the verge of the platform.

Sidious was also almost thrown off by explosion and he'd to be knoced down hundreds of feet too if not for the fact that he was at the center of the pod when the explosion happened.

Bottom line is this: neither bested the other in the direct confrontation of power vs. power.

Yoda failed in his mission, but he was not beaten is the purest sense of a fight.

You could argue that Sidious beat him stategically, though.

Which means Yoda lost. Chalk it down to chance, strategy, power, whatever, but Yoda ultimately lost.