Who can stop not one but TWO Vitiates

Ehh. He did not lose the fight. Chance decided.

Sidious won strategically as in Yoda was unable fulfill he's objective--kill Sidious. Sidious strategy was to survive, I guess. He did that just fine.

I guess we have to agree to disagree on that one.

Originally posted by ares834
Apparently Galactic Spy.

Originally posted by Stigma
Ehh. He did not lose the fight. chance decided.

Sidious won strategically as in Yoda was unable fulfill he's objective--kill Sidious..

I guess we have to agree to diagree on that one.

There is nothing to disagree on. Yoda fled from a disadventegious position, he lost.

Which was due to luck, not skill or power advantage that Sidious held.

Again, agree to disagree, I guess.

Sidious clearly performed better in that fight.

Ok, Yoda was unlucky. But he still lost the fight.

Originally posted by ares834
There is nothing to disagree on. Yoda fled from a disadventegious position, he lost.

They didn't fight on neutral ground at that point.

did he?

Yoda disarmed him. Than they clashed in a force brawl and due to luck Sidious did nto fall down the way Yoda did.

Seems liek a clear example stalemate to me.

Except it wasn't. Sidious got Yoda into a disadvantageous position (through luck doesn't matter) and Yoda chose to flee. That's a loss.

Originally posted by ares834
Ok, Yoda was unlucky. But he still lost the fight.

Originally posted by McP
They didn't fight on neutral ground at that point.

And? They started off on neutral ground. That Sidious is "clever" enough to gain a better position doesn't mean he didn't win.

Originally posted by ares834
And? They started off on neutral ground. That Sidious is "clever" enough to gain a better position doesn't mean he didn't win.

Nope. I'm not taling about that. Palpatine was at his own teritory, and Yoda had to chasing him all the time. Otherwise he would run, as he tried to do earlier. That was terrible tactical disadvantage, and the ground wasn't neutral at that point.

Originally posted by Sinious
This is a challenging gauntlet, even the first 2 rounds aren't that easy.

4/5/6 are all challenging fights. However, they should stop either at 7 or 8.

This is assuming he doesn't get his Ziost feats.

1. Lord Dramath*
2. An entire Dark Council (Led by Darth Lokess)
3. Revan and Malak
4. 8 Dark Council members
5. Revan (again)
6. Jedi Strike Team (Led by Master Braga)

*Vitiate was only 10 years old during this time.

Two wouldn't find a gauntlet challenging until 9.

Originally posted by McP
Nope. I'm not taling about that. Palpatine was at his own teritory, and Yoda had to chasing him all the time. Otherwise he would run, as he tried to do earlier. That was terrible tactical disadvantage, and the ground wasn't neutral at that point.

Uh, no. Once Sidious begins the duel in earnest nothing hints at him attempting to escape. In fact, in the script, after Yoda falls Sidious looks for him.

"PALPATINE follows in his pod, searching for YODA."

Look at their TK application in that fight. Sidious had the upper hand and Yoda wouldn't be able to keep up had they kept on fighting. "the creature had reached the limits of his strength."

Yeah, and he would order his clone troopers to kill him.

Originally posted by McP
Yeah, and he would order his clone troopers to kill him.

This is before his clones come. It's immediately after Yoda is knocked down.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Vitiate have defeated:

1. Lord Dramath*
2. An entire Dark Council (Led by Darth Lokess)
3. Revan and Malak
4. 8 Dark Council members
5. Revan (again)
6. Jedi Strike Team (Led by Master Braga)

*Vitiate was only 10 years old during this time.

Two wouldn't find a gauntlet challenging until 9.

You know I'm aware of Vitiate's feats right? lol

I meant that this is a challenging gauntlet in general. Even in the second round there are 4 extremely dangerous combatants.

Originally posted by Stigma
Ehh. He did not lose the fight. Chance decided.

Sidious won strategically as in Yoda was unable fulfill he's objective--kill Sidious. Sidious strategy was to survive, I guess. He did that just fine.

I guess we have to agree to disagree on that one.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Yoda had been pushed to his limits and point of exhaustion. His fall granted him the opportunity to escape.

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