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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I've always believed Sidious threw the fight. I didn't realize others on this forum didn't.

It's one of those unanswered (but suspect) things that can't be proved one way or another. But everyone's entitled to their opinion on it.

Star Wars tends to leave a lot to the imagination.

In fact, Lucas confirms Sidious is throwing it at least by the time he begs for mercy.

You don't need Lucas to confirm that. You might as well ask him to confirm that water is wet, or something. The question is whether or not Sidious was legitimately beaten in the lightsaber combat.

"The Jedi Master is winning when Anakin arrives, but Palpatine, as the scene has been rethought, now seizes the occasion to exaggerate his weakness."

- The Making of Revenge of the Sith, page 204

( Note the use of the term exaggerate. You can't exaggerate something that isn't there to begin with. )

This is about Canon, and if scripts aren't canon, that definitely isn't.

Something else I found intresting is it says that only Kenobi could defeat RotS Vader.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Lame. Is this all just Force Users? Or are there more stuff? Anything bout IG-88? Royal Guards? Stormtroopers?

Oh, plenty other stuff as well. There is quite a lot on Stormtroopers but nothing really impressive. And IG-88 has a small bio. Can't find anything on Royal Guards though.

Originally posted by ares834
Something else I found intresting is it says that only Kenobi could defeat RotS Vader.

Oh, plenty other stuff as well. There is quite a lot on Stormtroopers but nothing really impressive. And IG-88 has a small bio. Can't find anything on Royal Guards though.

Might if I prod you for the Stormtrooper and 88 quote? I just wanna see what the new lore has on em, ya can PM me the stuff if ya like.

They've got a full two page spread for the Stormtroopers and then some info on their armor and guns. Way to much to type. Lol

Nothing really interesting though.

I'll post the IG-88 bio later.

Originally posted by ares834
They've got a full two page spread for the Stormtroopers and then some info on their armor and guns. Way to much to type. Lol

Nothing really interesting though.

I'll post the IG-88 bio later.

Well can ya at least tell me, that they aren't typed up as being moronic?....Like are they stated pretty much as they've always been stated in older sources? Are the Stormtrooper Corps back? Is the Imperial Army back?

I'll just take a pic and post it in a bit.

Hopefully, I can get a photo clear enough to be readable.

Edit: Don't think the corps are mentioned but they are mentioned in Lords of the Sith.

Kk cool, much appreciated Ares.

May be a bit hard to read but whatever.

Just click the pic for full size (should also turn them the right way).

THANK YOU Ares....ok good, it seems much of the old stuff about Stormtroopers is remaining in tact which I like. The same with TIE pilots still being elite and very few actually become....ok good, this makes me feel so much more at ease now.

I hope to see more like this in later guides and such.

Also good that the Stormtrooper Corps are mentioned in LoS, I like how the GE had both the Corps and Imperial Army, it really set them different from the other governments where they just had one sole Trooper branch which did everything.

So I hope at some point the Imperial Army Troopers and Army pilots come back too. While they weren't show much, at least the Army Troopers anyway, their appearance and info on em made em pretty awesome.

Originally posted by ares834
Something else I found intresting is it says that only Kenobi could defeat RotS Vader.

Originally posted by ares834
Something else I found intresting is it says that only Kenobi could defeat RotS Vader.

Exact Quote and context please.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Well Kenobi is the only one left, and Yoda's going after Sidious.

Point being Kenobi was just capable of beating him. Instead of it being a case of Anakin >>> Kenobi, but Kenobi won only because Anakin was "unstable" or whatever. This quote would confirm Kenobi as one of the greats/elite of the Council.

I just find it difficult to believe that Sidious calculated Anakin's arrival with exact precision and that he would trust his life to Anakin making a decision to either be a Sith or be a Jedi. It's unlike him. I believe Windu would win 1/10 fights against Sidious and that simply was that single one.

It's almost as if Sidious has amazing powers of foresight.

Originally posted by ares834
It's almost as if Sidious has amazing powers of foresight.

Nah can't be, I mean it's not like it isn't shown throughout the other movies......oh...

Also IG-88 bio? 😄

Originally posted by Col. Valerian
I believe Windu would win 1/10 fights against Sidious and that simply was that single one.

This of course is a strong possibility. And that 1/10 may become 3-4/10 when there's 3 other Jedi distracting Sidious for the first 7 seconds of the fight.

Yoda vs Sidious.

"Though Yoda is a tough combatant, the Emperor uses his Sith powers to release lightning bolts and hurl floating platforms at his foe. Ultimately the battle proves too much for Yoda, who barely escapes and is whisked away to safety by Senator Bail Organa."

Also, some commentary on Sidious vs B-Team.

"Instead, Palpatine reveals a hidden lightsaber and explodes into lethal motion, cutting down Fisto before the shocked Nautolan can raise his blade in defence and block the attack."
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"None of the Jedi expect resistance, but when Mace announces he is placing Palpatine under arrest, the Chancellor suddenly springs into action. Agen Kolar is the first to fall. Tiin moves to strike, but Palpatine is faster and cuts down the Iktotchi Jedi Master."

Sounds like the element of surprise played a large role in the blitz. Although, Fisto did manage to block one or two of Palpatine's attacks before dying.

Eh Yoda was pretty tough but Palps handled it np tbh he too powerful Yoda's good too but eh