Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiFlying around the building fighting multiple threats in the city, fighting the retpitlian warriors, taking on the aliens in the operating room, and getting the better of them all.
The superior ones to Caine in virtually every area imaginable. Those feats. Now which feats are you referring to that Caine wins?
All multiple threats who all engage him at once he gets the better of save the reptilian leader he engaged and defeated one on one.
Now answer me which feats if Vader. Prepare to be humiliated.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Flying around the building fighting multiple threats in the city, fighting the retpitlian warriors, taking on the aliens in the operating room, and getting the better of them all.All multiple threats who all engage him at once he gets the better of save the reptilian leader he engaged and defeated one on one.
Now answer me which feats if Vader. Prepare to be humiliated.
Nope.. You need to list the feats that actually give him the victory. None of the feats mentioned even come close to that. Nor are any of the people you listed have the same powers Vader does. Those feats sucked. Now list the feats that actually have Caine winning, because as it stands, based on what you said, he gets stomped.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiThose feats are greater than fighting a very slow Vader who isn't maneuverable. That's against multiple threats and the reptilian warrior is far stronger and faster than suit Vader. Do I need to post how slow and terrible he is in return of the Jedi.
Nope.. You need to list the feats that actually give him the victory. None of the feats mentioned even come close to that. Nor are any of the people you listed have the same powers Vader does. Those feats sucked. Now list the feats that actually have Caine winning, because as it stands, based on what you said, he gets stomped.
I think I may because he's objectively slower to the point it's kind of sad.
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Continue to run from the evidence.
Han Solo even got a few blasts off. Vader is pretty slow.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Those feats are greater than fighting a very slow Vader who isn't maneuverable. That's against multiple threats and the reptilian warrior is far stronger and faster than suit Vader. Do I need to post how slow and terrible he is in return of the Jedi.I think I may because he's objectively slower to the point it's kind of sad.
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Continue to run from the evidence.
Han Solo even got a few blasts off. Vader is pretty slow.
You mean the movie that was made before you were born probably and didn't have CGI or other special affects they have today? Could it be that is why they are shown moving "slow" ?
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiWe see Superman flying around the earth at exceptional speeds in what year ? So save the hey let's ignore the evidence and the fact he's in a giant mechanical suit he's as fast as the flash type bs.
You mean the movie that was made before you were born probably and didn't have CGI or other special affects they have today? Could it be that is why they are shown moving "slow" ?
You ignore the evidence because you're a fanboy. I always cite evidence to back my claims. 🙂
Originally posted by quanchi112
We see Superman flying around the earth at exceptional speeds in what year ? So save the hey let's ignore the evidence and the fact he's in a giant mechanical suit he's as fast as the flash type bs.You ignore the evidence because you're a fanboy. I always cite evidence to back my claims. 🙂
They show a globe and something moving around it. Poor special effects and quite easy to pull off even then. Far different than the CGI effects we see today in regards to h2h fights. Look no further than Superman 2 and him fighting Zod and company. We see all the movements and punches. So that must mean they are slow to right? You just crushed your own argument citing a movie you thought would prove your point. Only, it crushed your argument. How we perceive things (as the audience) isn't indicative of speed all the time or even most of the time. Especially when we are dealing with Sci0fi or fantasy.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiWe see he moved faster than light so there goes your excuse that special effects couldn't portray faster speeds. They didn't fight at superhuman speeds. How is this hard to follow along ? We see Lois interact and she isn't seeing blurs. We see blurs when he flies around the planet.
They show a globe and something moving around it. Poor special effects and quite easy to pull off even then. Far different than the CGI effects we see today in regards to h2h fights. Look no further than Superman 2 and him fighting Zod and company. We see all the movements and punches. So that must mean they are slow to right? You just crushed your own argument citing a movie you thought would prove your point. Only, it crushed your argument. How we perceive things (as the audience) isn't indicative of speed all the time or even most of the time. Especially when we are dealing with Sci0fi or fantasy.
I feel like I'm talking to a mongoloid.
Originally posted by quanchi112
We see he moved faster than light so there goes your excuse that special effects couldn't portray faster speeds. They didn't fight at superhuman speeds. How is this hard to follow along ? We see Lois interact and she isn't seeing blurs. We see blurs when he flies around the planet.I feel like I'm talking to a mongoloid.
You just crushed your argument AGAIN. We "See" them moving at faster than light. In no way shape or form would we be able to perceive superman moving at faster than light speeds. Yet we do see him moving and flying around. Thus, how we perceive them isn't always indicative of how fast they are actually moving. You didn't even realize it but you just further prove my point. Ummm showing a globe and a yellow line going around it isn't difficult special effects for the time. Now, find me a film of the same time period of the original star wars that shows super speed h2h fight sequences that we see today with CGI etc etc. Find me a fight back then that shows such speed of movements in h2h encounters. All this does is illustrate that what we see isn't indicative of how fast they are moving.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiWe wouldn't be able to track his movements. We can't track him flying outside a blur. The film makes it clear she he flies very fast. When he fights he isn't fighting at those speeds because the film doesn't portray that.
You just crushed your argument AGAIN. We "See" them moving at faster than light. In no way shape or form would we be able to perceive superman moving at faster than light speeds. Yet we do see him moving and flying around. Thus, how we perceive them isn't always indicative of how fast they are actually moving. You didn't even realize it but you just further prove my point. Ummm showing a globe and a yellow line going around it isn't difficult special effects for the time. Now, find me a film of the same time period of the original star wars that shows super speed h2h fight sequences that we see today with CGI etc etc. Find me a fight back then that shows such speed of movements in h2h encounters. All this does is illustrate that what we see isn't indicative of how fast they are moving.
Again, I don't have to. You ignored the evidence and I cited an example you can't even understand. I picture you drooling and licking windows at this point, Abe.
Originally posted by quanchi112
We wouldn't be able to track his movements. We can't track him flying outside a blur. The film makes it clear she he flies very fast. When he fights he isn't fighting at those speeds because the film doesn't portray that.Again, I don't have to. You ignored the evidence and I cited an example you can't even understand. I picture you d
rooling and licking windows at this point, Abe.
Of course you do, that is the point. The effects of the time period are of the utmost importance. Find me a fight in the same time period which shows h2h fighting at the speeds we see today. Timees change.
yes we can track him... we actually see him flying around the globe.. It's illustrated for us. Yet, in reality we know we couldn't actually see him at all if he's flying that fast. How the director choreographs fights a fight scene doesn't mean he's not fighting that fast. Showing blurry lines for flight is one thing the audience could deal with for flight.. no biggie. Yet, we see them specifically show superman flying or SS flying.. when in reality we wouldn't be able to perceive them as fast as they are flying.. yet we can. However, for actually h2h encounters you think the audience wants to see blurry lines for he climax fight to end the movie? Of course not, they want to see the blows land.. the facial expressions... the tense build up from the back and forth fight. That is their creative choice. That doesn't mean the director thinks Superman can punch at super speeds or fight at those speeds. He can and was.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiThis is Star Wars. Their fighting speed hasn't been radically altered. The movies are canon so despite your find me other examples I already cited one. Superman's flight around the planet.
Of course you do, that is the point. The effects of the time period are of the utmost importance. Find me a fight in the same time period which shows h2h fighting at the speeds we see today. Timees change.yes we can track him... we actually see him flying around the globe.. It's illustrated for us. Yet, in reality we know we couldn't actually see him at all if he's flying that fast. How the director choreographs fights a fight scene doesn't mean he's not fighting that fast. Showing blurry lines for flight is one thing the audience could deal with for flight.. no biggie. Yet, we see them specifically show superman flying or SS flying.. when in reality we wouldn't be able to perceive them as fast as they are flying.. yet we can. However, for actually h2h encounters you think the audience wants to see blurry lines for he climax fight to end the movie? Of course not, they want to see the blows land.. the facial expressions... the tense build up from the back and forth fight. That is their creative choice. That doesn't mean the director thinks Superman can punch at super speeds or fight at those speeds. He can and was.
We can't see his movements or make out his body. We see blurs flying around the planet. When he flies slower we can see his entire body because he isn't flying anywhere close to that speed. Blurs are faster, dummy.
They didn't fight that fast. We don't just assume that without proof, tool. We see blurs when a clear portrayal of excessive speed is used but when Superman is holding buses and what not to save people he isn't operating at fast speeds. We see every movement plain as day. Basically your ideas are make stuff up because he was a blur when he flew (not fought) at his absolute top speed.
Prove it. You continue to deny and make up evidence. You're a fanboy.