Caine Wise (Jupiter Ascending) vs. Darth Vader (ROTJ)

Started by Golgo1331 pages
Originally posted by StealthRanger
So do we call this or what?

I'd say this is a wrap.

And, we have a winner, folks

Originally posted by Golgo13
I'd say this is a wrap.
I am glad you finally conceded this thread to Mr. Wise.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
And, we have a winner, folks
Caine it is !!!

Originally posted by StealthRanger
And, we have a winner, folks

Vader, the true king!

Originally posted by quanchi112
Vader it is !!!

Glad to see we're on the same page

Originally posted by Golgo13
Vader, the true king!
Vader was not a king. Your ignorance knows no bounds.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Glad to see we're on the same page
Altering my quote is a concession. Caine wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This is Star Wars. Their fighting speed hasn't been radically altered. The movies are canon so despite your find me other examples I already cited one. Superman's flight around the planet.

We can't see his movements or make out his body. We see blurs flying around the planet. When he flies slower we can see his entire body because he isn't flying anywhere close to that speed. Blurs are faster, dummy.

They didn't fight that fast. We don't just assume that without proof, tool. We see blurs when a clear portrayal of excessive speed is used but when Superman is holding buses and what not to save people he isn't operating at fast speeds. We see every movement plain as day. Basically your ideas are make stuff up because he was a blur when he flew (not fought) at his absolute top speed.

Prove it. You continue to deny and make up evidence. You're a fanboy.

Wrong again shorty.. I said find me a h2h fight scene that has similar speeds we see today. You're talking about a 30 year old movie and complaining they move slow and thus they must be slow. Totally ignoring the fact that Jedi have superior and enhanced reflexes. So find me an example of a h2h fight of that same period.

you keep proving my point you dummy and you don't even realize it. They don't show a blur... they show a line going around the globe which is meant to show superman flying and great speeds around it. Dummy, we shouldn't be able to even perceive that if he was truly flying that fast. That is what you aren't getting. The director sometimes has us SEE stuff we wouldn't normally be able to see because it's moving to fast. They also have moving slow so we can see them but hey are actually moving faster.

Did running into that wall when you smushed your face also make you dumber? You just said... how they portray the character and their abilities makes it clear to the audience they are really moving fast but we can still see them. You said this for flash and quicksilver. Problem is, the Jedi have the same benefit of it being made CRYSTAL CLEAR they have enhanced speed and stats. So when we see them fighting and human level speed.. they are actually fighting faster. Do you see how I just walked you to where I wanted you to go and then crushed you... So easy LMAO.. Keep trying short stuff.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Wrong again shorty.. I said find me a h2h fight scene that has similar speeds we see today. You're talking about a 30 year old movie and complaining they move slow and thus they must be slow. Totally ignoring the fact that Jedi have superior and enhanced reflexes. So find me an example of a h2h fight of that same period.

you keep proving my point you dummy and you don't even realize it. They don't show a blur... they show a line going around the globe which is meant to show superman flying and great speeds around it. Dummy, we shouldn't be able to even perceive that if he was truly flying that fast. That is what you aren't getting. The director sometimes has us SEE stuff we wouldn't normally be able to see because it's moving to fast. They also have moving slow so we can see them but hey are actually moving faster.

Did running into that wall when you smushed your face also make you dumber? You just said... how they portray the character and their abilities makes it clear to the audience they are really moving fast but we can still see them. You said this for flash and quicksilver. Problem is, the Jedi have the same benefit of it being made CRYSTAL CLEAR they have enhanced speed and stats. So when we see them fighting and human level speed.. they are actually fighting faster. Do you see how I just walked you to where I wanted you to go and then crushed you... So easy LMAO.. Keep trying short stuff.

Luke didn't look anywhere near as slow or as lumbering as Vader. Vader is heavier in the suit thus he loses quickness. I gave an example. You also admitted Superman can be portrayed without seeing his actions but when we see them it's clear he isn't using super speed. That's a blurry line.

False as this is against a character without super speed or force abilities. Count the shots. Evidence.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f2rxsiOlUa0

The important thing I want to emphasize is Caine Wise is a very cool-looking fighter and you should watch his movie.

Originally posted by Q99
The important thing I want to emphasize is Caine Wise is a very cool-looking fighter and you should watch his movie.
The movie was bad. I don't debate based off who I like more or else I'd give Vader the win.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Glad to see we're on the same page

Same here.

Curbstomp for Vader.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Same here.
Debate or else leave.

Originally posted by playa1258
Curbstomp for Vader.
Based on ?

Originally posted by playa1258
Curbstomp for Vader.

Pretty much. Cain wins one, though. Just to be generous.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Pretty much. Cain wins one, though. Just to be generous.
Caine wins all based off vaders slow lumbering movements.

Originally posted by Q99
The important thing I want to emphasize is Caine Wise is a very cool-looking fighter and you should watch his movie.

I wasn't impressed.

Originally posted by Golgo13
I wasn't impressed.
Because there weren't any dc characters.

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