Caine Wise (Jupiter Ascending) vs. Darth Vader (ROTJ)

Started by Stigma31 pages
Originally posted by Stigma
Are you talking to me, quan? I have trolls like you on ignore. GG.

Originally posted by Stigma
Caine Wise is too fast for Vader.

I don't get why this is even an issue. Vader is the obvious winner as all he has to do is just choke him with the force. It's not that difficult to understand.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I don't get why this is even an issue. Vader is the obvious winner as all he has to do is just choke him with the force. It's not that difficult to understand.

Note how force-choke is almost always done against stationary foes. The first CW cartoon even shows force-push can be dodged.

Personally I don't think Caine really has a way to win, it's not like Vader's going to miss a block, but it should be a good long fight with him circling and shooting a lot.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I don't get why this is even an issue. Vader is the obvious winner as all he has to do is just choke him with the force. It's not that difficult to understand.
What skilled opponent has he defeated in this manner with long range capabilities ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
What skilled opponent has he defeated in this manner with long range capabilities ?

Why would that matter as all he has to do is force choke him and unless he has some supernatural powers it's game.

[QUOTE=15264494]Originally posted by Q99
[B]Note how force-choke is almost always done against stationary foes. The first CW cartoon even shows force-push can be dodged.

can you show me when it was dodged. I'm not saying your wrong but me and my friend have been debating about this and he says it can be blocked and or dodged while I say it can't.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Why would that matter as all he has to do is force choke him and unless he has some supernatural powers it's game.
If they don't have the same abilities it isn't relevant. Name one impressive guy Vader force chokes to death.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If they don't have the same abilities it isn't relevant. Name one impressive guy Vader force chokes to death.

Anyone being impressive is irrelevant. Force choke is force choke and works on anyone including Caine.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Anyone being impressive is irrelevant. Force choke is force choke and works on anyone including Caine.
The guys he choked weren't warriors who also survived being in space for a brief moment nor did they have long ranged combat. That's relevant, dummy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The guys he choked weren't warriors who also survived being in space for a brief moment nor did they have long ranged combat. That's relevant, dummy.

I don't think so as all it takes his force choke and Caine is done. 😂

Game over.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I don't think so as all it takes his force choke and Caine is done. 😂

Game over.

Then give me an example of Vader doing this to someone of Caine's caliber ? Go ahead. In continuity as well, fanboy. It is sad I have to say that.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Then give me an example of Vader doing this to someone of Caine's caliber ? Go ahead. In continuity as well, fanboy. It is sad I have to say that.

Again irrelevant as unless Caine has a force wall the force choke won't get stopped. Yes it is sad you have to say it but I'm glad you are learning to be more specific. 😂

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Again irrelevant as unless Caine has a force wall the force choke won't get stopped. Yes it is sad you have to say it but I'm glad you are learning to be more specific. 😂
He shoots faster. Watch order 66 and tell me how most of the Jedi fared despite the force abilities

Caine ftw. Han fire off multiple blasts before Vader took his gun. Facts,

Originally posted by quanchi112
He shoots faster. Watch order 66 and tell me how most of the Jedi fared despite the force abilities

Caine ftw. Han fire off multiple blasts before Vader took his gun. Facts,

Did they use any of their force abilities. No they actually didn't. They only used their lightsaber and then they were surprised. So reevaluate yourself. Also do we need to be reminded about how vade was able to block Hans shots.

All of this is opinion but I stick. Also he was still able to block and took it. So really basically you admitted Caine loses. While he may get a few shots in vader will ultimately take his weapon.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Did they use any of their force abilities. No they actually didn't. They only used their lightsaber and then they were surprised. So reevaluate yourself. Also do we need to be reminded about how vade was able to block Hans shots.

All of this is opinion but I stick. Also he was still able to block and took it. So really basically you admitted Caine loses. While he may get a few shots in vader will ultimately take his weapon.

Vader blocked with his robotic hands but we see Han was able to fire multiple blasts. Reflexes wise Vader was bad in that scene.

Caine is more skilled than Han and has better weaponry. Caine would beat Han with one arm. It'd be very one sided.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Vader blocked with his robotic hands but we see Han was able to fire multiple blasts. Reflexes wise Vader was bad in that scene.

Caine is more skilled than Han and has better weaponry. Caine would beat Han with one arm. It'd be very one sided.

Blasters travel at fast rates and vader at that close range was able to block it with ease. Reflexe wise vader actually is pretty fast.

Irrelevant as both are skilled with boasters/guns and vader was able to block it at a close range.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Blasters travel at fast rates and vader at that close range was able to block it with ease. Reflexe wise vader actually is pretty fast.

Irrelevant as both are skilled with boasters/guns and vader was able to block it at a close range.

And so do the lasers Caine uses. Vader got his hand in the way. He was also waiting for him. Awful.

Caine is far more skilled so it isn't irrelevant. Caine also has gravity boots and a shield.

Originally posted by quanchi112
And so do the lasers Caine uses. Vader got his hand in the way. He was also waiting for him. Awful.

Caine is far more skilled so it isn't irrelevant. Caine also has gravity boots and a shield.

He still caught them so with vader he would be able to catch them even with close distance.

Well it's a shame that he could just use force choke. "I find your lack of faith disturbing".

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
He still caught them so with vader he would be able to catch them even with close distance.

Well it's a shame that he could just use force choke. "I find your lack of faith disturbing".

He wasn't close to him. He also was lying in wait. Caine can fire while he's choking thus ending Vader.