Caine Wise (Jupiter Ascending) vs. Darth Vader (ROTJ)

Originally posted by quanchi112
I feel their feats and portrayals make it clear they don't perceive time the same way as people do at maximum speeds. You saying its a trope isn't a point, nerd.

Special pleading

If it's a trope, it's not taken seriously as a feat, not my fault you're a dumbcunt who doesn't get it

If it's canon it's all evidence unless proven otherwise. Saying low or high is subjective or opinion based, idiot.

You're a ****ing idiot

Citing evidence is debating. Saying this doesn't count because I say it's low is a double standard. 😂

Well if we want to use low end showings then all of fiction is only low end peak human according to you

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Special pleading

If it's a trope, it's not taken seriously as a feat, not my fault you're a dumbcunt who doesn't get it

You're a ****ing idiot

Well if we want to use low end showings then all of fiction is only low end peak human according to you

Time elapsing is very serious. If you feel zero seconds or time passes it's on you to prove it. That's how debating works you miscreant.

Irony.

Saying low end is treating feats differently and you're too dumb to even realize it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What the **** does special pleading even me ?

53. Special pleading.

This is when someone tries to explain away a piece of evidence against him by saying that extra considerations apply, ignoring the point of how these extra considerations would actually affect the evidence.

Example: "Yes, Goku was tagged by Uub, who has no speed feats whatsoever, but Uub is the reincarnation of Majin Buu, the most powerful villain in the series!"

While the extra consideration (Uub was the reincarnation of Buu, and Buu was the strongest villain in the series), is true, it ignores the fact that Uub never demonstrated any of the other capabilities of Buu, such as his speed, transmutation, ki blasts, amorphous body, absorption, etc.

Time elapsing is very serious. If you feel zero seconds or time passes it's on you to prove it. That's how debating works you miscreant.

If it's a trope, it doesn't mean shit, and as such is not taken seriously, hence why it's called a trope. And if you can't figure that out, not my fault you're a complete dumbcunt

Irony.

Is "no u" the best argument you can come up with?

Saying low end is treating feats differently and you're too dumb to even realize it.

😂

You clearly have no idea what the **** you're talking about

Originally posted by StealthRanger
If it's a trope, it doesn't mean shit, and as such is not taken seriously, hence why it's called a trope. And if you can't figure that out, not my fault you're a complete dumbcunt

Is "no u" the best argument you can come up with?

😂

You clearly have no idea what the **** you're talking about

I post it when it is ironic.

Using the word low to describe a fact is applying a subjective term. There is no low or high there is only evidence. That's being completely fair and unbiased something you're incapable of doing.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I think time and perception matter. You saying its a trope without any proof it's a universally accepted thing isn't debating.

>the point

>10 billion lightyears

>your head

Using the word low to describe a fact is applying a subjective term. There is no low or high there is only evidence. That's being completely fair and unbiased something you're incapable of doing.

If a character tanks a blast with the power of 50 supernovas, it'a high end showing

If said character gets knocked out by a brick, then it's a low end showing

It's posts like these are the reason nobody takes you seriously

Originally posted by StealthRanger
>the point

>10 billion lightyears

>your head

If a character tanks a blast with the power of 50 supernovas, it'a high end showing

If said character gets knocked out by a brick, then it's a low end showing

It's posts like these are the reason nobody takes you seriously

That's you being biased. That's your opinion. Do you now know what subjective means ? Honestly. 😂

In the end to not apply double standards of its canon it's all evidence, kiddo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You can't even rebut my points but instead just repeat yourself in brick wall fashion.

You have no points, all you have in tap dancing and red herrings

Not my fault your a dumbcunt who doesn't understand what a trope is

Derp I don't know what the **** I'm talking about as usual

That's what I thought

Originally posted by StealthRanger
You have the points, all you have in tap dancing and red herrings

Not my fault your a dumbcunt who doesn't understand what a trope is

That's what I thought

I am fair and do not use double standards. You're a biased, fanboy who can't offer any evidence to support his fanatical claims.

😆

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you concede and flame. Pathetic.

Typo, and you still don;t know what a trope is, and your tap dancing makes no difference

I am fair and do not use double standards.

"I'll take low end showings for Vader but I'll take the best feats for Caine oh so shamelessly"

"Tropes are treated as if they're actual feats rather than just tropes in some verses but not others"

"Voldemort can use whatever top notch effective spells at the start of the fight but Superman is in character and won't speedblitz him"

Really quanchi? Surely you jest?

You're a biased, fanboy who can't offer any evidence to support his fanatical claims.

I have given evidence for my claims I'm afraid to say, stonewalling is not a valid counterargument

Shhh, it's okay spergchi, there's no need to cry

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Typo, and you still don;t know what a trope is, and your tap dancing makes no difference

"I'll take low end showings for Vader but I'll take the best feats for Caine oh so shamelessly"

"Tropes are treated as if they're actual feats rather than just tropes in some verses but not others"

"Voldemort can use whatever top notch effective spells at the start of the fight but Superman is in character and won't speedblitz him"

Really quanchi? Surely you jest?

I have given evidence for my claims I'm afraid to say, stonewalling is not a valid counterargument

Shhh, it's okay spergchi, there's no need to cry

I take all showings. I don't see it as low or high I see them all as facts. That's the fair way to debate.

So that's what you do when you can't win a debate. Figures.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I know how debating works

and you saying trope isn't a point.

And trying to use a trope as a feat, is not a point, not my fault you don't get it

I take all showings. I don't see it as low or high I see them all as facts. That's the fair way to debate.

Actions speak louder than words, your claim is casually overshadowed by your nitpicking low end showings and trying to use them as evidence

So that's what you do when you can't win a debate. Figures.

I won this debate some pages ago

Originally posted by StealthRanger

And trying to use a trope as a feat, is not a point, not my fault you don't get it

Actions speak louder than words, your claim is casually overshadowed by your nitpicking low end showings and trying to use them as evidence

I won this debate some pages ago

That's called evidence. 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Me using time passing as time passing is debating. If you feel no time passes then you have to prove it. That's how debating works.

>dumbcunt still does not the "talking is a free action" concept

That's called evidence. 🙂

Still waiting on those Caine feats that make him superior, btw

Originally posted by StealthRanger
>dumbcunt still does not the "talking is a free action" concept

Still waiting on those Caine feats that make him superior, btw

If you make a claim you have to prove it. Saying trope isn't backing a claim.

🙂

Been there done that, not my fault you're too retarded to get what a trope is

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Been there done that, not my fault you're too retarded to get what a trope is

Originally posted by quanchi112
You can't even back any of your claims. You debate using double standards. Lol.

RE: double standards

Originally posted by StealthRanger

RE: double standards

Originally posted by quanchi112
Finally you concede to me. Good, good.

You saw no concession, so, where are Caine's feats that put him above Vader now? Still waiting

Originally posted by StealthRanger
You saw no concession, so, where are Caine's feats that put him above Vader now? Still waiting