Originally posted by Igniz
I'll say this.Superman's Heat Ray Vision would be more versatile than Thor's lightning since he it used on different application.I would give the destructive edge to Thor's lightning since it hurt a being who was the abstract darkness and chaos that destroyed and absorbed 98.76% of the marvel multiverse.I don't even know how one can hurt a being that represents nothingness 😕 So don't ask me about this.There's also Thor's lorn bolt as well.
So there go
Superman's HV wins via being the more versatile.
Thor's lightning wins via being more destructive.I also think Thor's lightning can hurt beings like Blackheart 😛
Re: Re: Re: Re: Superman heat vision vs Thor lightning
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
👆Not sure why he's crying about it. It's fine for peeps to get riled up. It's a vs forum for crying out loud. If you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen.
That is some pu$$y @$$ shiet... Bunch of soft beetches in here
Anyhow, i'd call them even. The HV is a more pin point attack. It loses out to the lightning causing wide range damage.
Thor generally, unless Superman unleashes (which he hardly does).
Superman's hv has more penetration power and Thor's lightning more blunt power. So in reality we are talking apples and oranges. Superman's hv (when written well) has little to no concussive properties and mostly burns through. Thor's lightning is mostly concussive with little burning properties (going by comics).
So basically we are largely arguing energy vs. blunt force. They damage in different ways and aren't comparable entirely. So in conclusion, Superman's hv has the better ability of penetrating or burning through and Thor's lightning has the better ability of shattering or cracking.
So if a character has large durability against blunt force then lightning isn't going to do much. But is a character has large durability against burning forces then hv isn't going to do much.
Originally posted by h1a8
Thor generally, unless Superman unleashes (which he hardly does).
Superman's hv has more penetration power and Thor's lightning more blunt power. So in reality we are talking apples and oranges. Superman's hv (when written well) has little to no concussive properties and mostly burns through. Thor's lightning is mostly concussive with little burning properties (going by comics).
So basically we are largely arguing energy vs. blunt force. They damage in different ways and aren't comparable entirely. So in conclusion, Superman's hv has the better ability of penetrating or burning through and Thor's lightning has the better ability of shattering or cracking.
So if a character has large durability against blunt force then lightning isn't going to do much. But is a character has large durability against burning forces then hv isn't going to do much.
Not a perfect analogy but i liken it to a 9mm and a shotgun.
Both can hit one target in a tightly packed crowd, one with more accuracy/less collateral damage.
Same crowd, emptying the 9mm clip isnt going to be as effective as emptying the shotgun for causing the most damage.
i think it's obvious it's pretty close. part of the problem people have with saying it could be hv (imo) is that it is merely perceived to be a secondary power, used without fanfare and rarely used as a means to defeat someone who seems beyond supes to handle physically.
thor's lightning otoh? when that sh!t is summoned, it's usually a big deal and is often called upon when he fights an equal or better to turn the tide of a difficult battle or to flat out ko/kill someone. so the perception of the 2 is vastly different. when you get beyond that though, i think its pretty clear is at least reasonably close. in general i'd take the lightning. magic trumps most things, but when supes cuts loose hv can be nearly as uber.
Originally posted by krisblaze
Like you said, some people are probably reluctant to vote HV because Superman uses it for a lot of practical shit as well. Unlike the lightning, which is almost never brought out, HV gets used for a lot of low-end stuff as well.
Originally posted by riv6672No! Both a 9mm and a shotgun are blunt forces. Hv is not blunt force when written well. And Most widespread damage isn't necessarily better with less penetration. More and Precise penetration could be better. For example, against a very durable being (against blunt) the lightning will do nothing but the hv will still penetrate. But against something that's heat and energy resistant but not very blunt resistant then the lightning would be more effective. This is apples and oranges really.
Not a perfect analogy but i liken it to a 9mm and a shotgun.
Both can hit one target in a tightly packed crowd, one with more accuracy/less collateral damage.
Same crowd, emptying the 9mm clip isnt going to be as effective as emptying the shotgun for causing the most damage.
Originally posted by riv6672lightning is blunt force and hv Is pure heat (no blunt forces when written well). Both have their advantages. But the hv has the best chance to cause damage against a very durable opponent.
Speaking of blunt, what part of "not a perfect analogy" did you not get/choose to ignore?
Sheesh. 😛
what Thor did their is very impressive!
Originally posted by IgnizSupermans heat vision may beat it out,because he can do it all day long,he is superman after all!
I'll say this.Superman's Heat Ray Vision would be more versatile than Thor's lightning since he it used on different application.I would give the destructive edge to Thor's lightning since it hurt a being who was the abstract darkness and chaos that destroyed and absorbed 98.76% of the marvel multiverse.I don't even know how one can hurt a being that represents nothingness 😕 So don't ask me about this.There's also Thor's lorn bolt as well.
So there go
Superman's HV wins via being the more versatile.
Thor's lightning wins via being more destructive.I also think Thor's lightning can hurt beings like Blackheart 😛
