Lightning isn't really blunt force (though it can seem like it). At 50,000oF (5x hotter than the surface of the sun), it can cause explosive vaporization of material, though typically it will flow (conduct) through matter, burning it along the way. Eg, people. AFAIK, no one's ever been pounded into the ground, blown into the air, or thrown sideways by lightning (at least not on youtube). When people drop from a lightning strike, it's from being stunned/knocked unconscious by the tremendous electrical current surging through them, disrupting the body's bioelectric flow. The lightning is not physically smashing the person to the ground.
Thunder, OTOH, can be concussive. These are sound waves from superfast expansion of the air caused by lightning's heat. It's essentially a shock wave.
Originally posted by h1a8If you are subjectively deciding what counts and what doesn't you're being based and not objective.
lightning is blunt force and hv Is pure heat (no blunt forces when written well). Both have their advantages. But the hv has the best chance to cause damage against a very durable opponent.
Originally posted by Mindshiplightning is the flow of electrons. Electrons have mass. Thus lightning is concussive. Lightning also has burning properties. But guess what? People hardly get burned very badly from being struck. So saying that lightning is hotter than the sun is misleading as it doesn't translate at all to its victims.
Lightning isn't really blunt force (though it can seem like it). At 50,000oF (5x hotter than the surface of the sun), it can cause explosive vaporization of material, though typically it will flow (conduct) through matter, burning it along the way. Eg, people. AFAIK, no one's ever been pounded into the ground, blown into the air, or thrown sideways by lightning (at least not on youtube). When people drop from a lightning strike, it's from being stunned/knocked unconscious by the tremendous electrical current surging through them, disrupting the body's bioelectric flow. The lightning is not physically smashing the person to the ground.Thunder, OTOH, can be concussive. These are sound waves from superfast expansion of the air caused by lightning's heat. It's essentially a shock wave.
Originally posted by h1a8
lightning is the flow of electrons. Electrons have mass. Thus lightning is concussive. Lightning also has burning properties. But guess what? People hardly get burned very badly from being struck. So saying that lightning is hotter than the sun is misleading as it doesn't translate at all to its victims.
HV would have radiation pressure, doe. So it would be concussive.
Lightning DOES transfer heat; it's how fulgurite is formed.
Originally posted by Silent MasterAll he needs to do is watch Supernatural. Guy's never heard of fulgurite but it will be funny when he acts like he does
Does anyone have a grade school science book they can loan h1? He appears to need it.
I'm curious how he reasons that people have survived a 3rd of lightspeed blunt attack from lightning though.
Giant baseball bat moving at high speeds
Originally posted by DarkSaint85did you read my post well? I mentioned that lightning has burning properties in the very beginning. That means it transfers heat. I'm talking about the heat of being hotter than the sun doesn't quite transfer into someone like it sounds. Otherwise a person would be vaporized instantly. My point is that the comment is misleading and makes people think that lightning is so hot that it will vaporized anything upon contact. Humans survived many times without even being badly burned. (They were burned though). Bran is speaking in parables again. Who understands his weird sarcasm? It's like he's speaking a different language.
HV would have radiation pressure, doe. So it would be concussive.Lightning DOES transfer heat; it's how fulgurite is formed.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85You are assuming that hv is part of the electromagnetic spectrum. Even if it is then radiation pressure is merely a massless force, like the electromagnetic for is, just weaker. In no way is it the same as getting hit by an object of mass (blunt force).
Wait so you're ignoring my point about HV having concussive properties?
I assume it has light,yes, which is part of the EM spectrum.
I assume it has heat, yes, which is infra red, also part of the EM spectruum.
I can see once more that you are too stubborn to admit you were wrong. Read my post properly. I said it would have concussive force. Never once did mass come into it.
Originally posted by h1a8Time for reflecting on the nature of the universe... Why do electrons have mass? Why doe electrons act like a wave when being unobserved but as a particle when interacting with light? Could you bypass an event horizon directly into a singularity using a theoretical alcubbierre drive to expand space and contract it to the point that you simply instantaneously arrive at the singularity? These questions need answers and it is up to you fine gentlemen to find them.
lightning is the flow of electrons. Electrons have mass. Thus lightning is concussive. Lightning also has burning properties. But guess what? People hardly get burned very badly from being struck. So saying that lightning is hotter than the sun is misleading as it doesn't translate at all to its victims.