Meetra Surik vs. ROTJ Luke Skywalker (lightsabers only)

Started by Beniboybling8 pages

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Only the Battle of Malachor V was a definite. The reason no one else resisted Malachor was because they were all tortured until they broke. Obviously there wasn't enough time for that.
"It corrupts all that walks on its surface—drowns them in the power of the dark side."

Yes, how does that go against my point? Only Revan's Sith have been there. Besides, all places strong in the Dark Side slowly corrupt everything. It's not like it's an instant process.

I suppose you and Selenial also think the Exile is the only reason Nihilus didn't completely dominate all the Mandalorians on the Ravager.

Because it means that the Exile's companions did not have to be tortured to be corrupted. Its also made a big show of that Revan was able to resist its corruptive influence, so its obvious that you don't need to be tortured to succumb, mere exposure is enough.

This is all I'm really contending with, whether the Exile helped them overcome the influence or not is speculation, but it is possible.

Pre-Battle of Malachor and Post-Battle of Malachor corruption seems to work differently, tbh.

I'd assume post-battle of Malachor it would merely be more potent...

Again, this matters? The fight isn't taking place on Malachor, so there's none of this happening.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
I'd assume post-battle of Malachor it would merely be more potent...

Logically yes, but the feats show otherwise strangely enough.

I think that only makes Sel's theory necessary.

I was just chiming in - not contributing to one party of the debate. If its in favor of the Exile's wiillpower on Malachor, it's wrong though. 👆

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I was just chiming in - not contributing to one party of the debate. If its in favor of the Exile's wiillpower on Malachor, it's wrong though. 👆
Lol and:
Originally posted by Selenial
All of her party members were, they were in the Trayus academy being tortured and shit. Seeing as no other force user has ever resisted Malachor, and they're inferior to Surik, It's logical to assume what got them through it was her bond. Not to mention she weakened herself by going out of her way to save them.
Its the only logical explanation I can see.

Post-Destruction Malachor didn't corrupt when you stepped on the surface, that was only Pre-Destruction.
Surik's wound in the Force should allow her to negate the effects of Malachor - which is also a wound in the Force.
She managed to resist Nihilus' drain, and also showed no visible issues against his wound presence corruption attacks.

Yeah but I'm talking about her companions, there is no reason why they should not have been corrupted, the Kreia specifically states in present tense that it "corrupts all who walk on its surface".

And that makes it fact? I guess we are now going to say Revan is power incarnated into a single man? Post-Destruction Malachor was far less intense than Pre-Destruction in terms of corruptible dark side energies. The underground Sith city that Revan found and learned his untold wealth of knowledge from was destroyed during the final battle of the Mandalorian Wars. Nearly all those energies within all that knowledge would have been lost. Malachor converted into a less powerful dark side nexus (yet still very powerful), and a wound in the Force (feeling all those dead weighing down on you - etc etc). Revan trained his Assassins to take new recruits to Malachor to torture and break them (Malachor made the process merely easier - I guess.) Once broken, the effects of Malachor's wound in stuff would then play in, it seems. Before the destruction though, the planet basically mind-****ed anyone that went on its surface.

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Again none of this shit matters, this is a fight between two lightsiders on a sail barge on Tatooine.

Why you guys keep bringing up Malachor and it's corrupting effects and all other shit not related to the fight, is turning this more into off topic.

It's not helping that it's just the same things being repeated over and over again.

So back to the fight at hand yes?

I feel that Luke takes this, just sheer sabers he has shown as being stronger and faster than Surik. The skill shouldn't be all that off considering both have instantaneous learning curves.

Who cares if it's off topic? This is KMC bro.

Boobs.

Nipples.

Because it's about a fight? Not an off topic discussion.

Originally posted by ILS
Nipples.

Honkers.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Honkers.
Titties.