Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I don't think that Luke Skywalker, in DE era, was better then Kao Cen Darach, Ven Zallow and Satele Shan put together. And Luke was able to outduel Darth Sidious in a neutral setting.
You would be wrong. Kao and Ven Zallow would not fare much better than Fisto and Kolar, and Satele would last as long as Maul if even. Sidious will execute them all.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDWhile untrue, even if it was, these individuals aren't combining their skills into one individual. They are all still outclassed as individuals by Sidious in every respect and will be dismantled as such.
I don't think that Luke Skywalker, in DE era, was better then Kao Cen Darach, Ven Zallow and Satele Shan put together. And Luke was able to outduel Darth Sidious in a neutral setting.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Kit Fisto is better than Zallow...
Ven Zallow blitzed two competent Sith Warriors, deflected firepower of Eleena Darru without even looking at her, overwhelmed Lord Adraas, and injured Darth Malgus. Among all Sith Warriors challenging him, only Darth Malgus was able to defeat him.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I don't think that Luke Skywalker, in DE era, was better then Kao Cen Darach, Ven Zallow and Satele Shan put together. And Luke was able to outduel Darth Sidious in a neutral setting.
If Luke can duel evenly with Sidious why wouldn't he be able to beat Darach and Zallow. By ROTJ is arguable that Luke is a better duelist. As for out duel I think it was a close match and Sidious had already beaten Luke in a previous duel.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Kao Cen Darach and Ven Zallow are much better then Kit Fisto and Agen Kolar.
I would have to agree with you. Ven Zallow is definitly better than fisto as he was able to match and could have defeated malgus if he wasn't trying to match his own strength with his own. Darach his duel with the two sith speaks for its self.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDKit Fisto was regarded as the among the greatest lightsaber duelists not only in the Order, but in the Order's history. He easily defeated General Grievous, who has slaughtered countless Jedi and has gone toe to toe with the likes of Windu and Kenobi.
Based on?Ven Zallow blitzed two competent Sith Warriors, deflected firepower of Eleena Darru without even looking at her, overwhelmed Lord Adraas, and injured Darth Malgus. Among all Sith Warriors challenging him, only Darth Malgus was able to defeat him.
He has been described as "impossibly fast", blitzed Magaguards, themselves having Jedi like reactions, moved faster than even Kenobi could see and has deflected blaster fire from dozens of shooters from multiple angles while engaging a room for of armed prisoners in melee combat.
Finally as an esteemed Jedi Consular, he has developed his own underwater Force abilities, including a telekinetic bubble that could blow holes in vehicles with military grade armor. Ven Zallow does not compare.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Kao Cen Darach and Ven Zallow are much better then Kit Fisto and Agen Kolar.
No they really aren't. Kolar stomped Quinlan Vos, and is one of the most celebrated swordsmen the Order has ever seen. Kit Fisto fended off General Grievous +Magnaguards, can move faster than AOTCs Kenobi's perception, and destroy massive tanks with his Force Bubble Attack, and is also considered one of the most skilled duelists in the Order's history. Even if Zallow is better, it's marginally so, which will not save him from Lord Sidious.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Kit Fisto was regarded as the among the greatest lightsaber duelists not only in the Order, but in the Order's history.
B/W Lord Praven killed Jedi Master Usma.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
He easily defeated General Grievous, who has slaughtered countless Jedi and has gone toe to toe with the likes of Windu and Kenobi.
Also, Grievous is known to fight dirty. He defeated Nahdar Vebb with use of firearms after he was unable to outduel him. In addition, he is known to utilize his Magnaguards to tire Jedi out before making a move for the kill.
A genuinely competent Jedi should be able to defeat Grievous.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
He has been described as "impossibly fast", blitzed Magaguards, themselves having Jedi like reactions, moved faster than even Kenobi could see and has deflected blaster fire from dozens of shooters from multiple angles while engaging a room for of armed prisoners in melee combat.
Hype alone doesn't covers Fisto's shortcomings in lightsaber combat.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Finally as an esteemed Jedi Consular, he has developed his own underwater Force abilities, including a telekinetic bubble that could blow holes in vehicles with military grade armor.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Zallow does not compare.