Marquette University honors cop-killer Assata Shakur with mural
Whoever is in charge of this University is an anti-American propaganda machine.
Marquette University honors cop-killer Assata Shakur with mural
Whoever is in charge of this University is an anti-American propaganda machine.
Hopefully this mural will be taken down. Oh I know they'd never dare officially take it down, but hopefully someone has the good sense to vandalize it. Toss some ugly bright pink paint on it..do it something.
In fact yeah, I'd rather people vandalize it then they just remove it. Vandalize it and leave it up as a testament to the type of crap that just isn't going to fly anymore. Also the "quotes" from the woman they put up sound so asinine and smug considered what she did..it boggles the mind. Her quotes don't even have anything to do with gender or sexuality so..the f*ck is going on?
This also seems wildly unfair to the students of the school. Since now they kind of all look like pieces of sh*t who have cop killers for role models. I'm sure most of them do not feel that way, but I'd have a damn tough time justifying paying my hard earned money to go to school at a place that glamorizes a person like this.
It also needs to be said whoever approved this needs to be face punched. The saddest thing about this is that you KNOW that if anyone actually tried to get this legitimately taken down they'd be called racist. That is the society we've created for ourselves.
I mean the gas station down the street from my house has a nice mural featuring the characters from the "Wacky Racers" cartoon. Even this type of mural would of been more tasteful then the one this school put up.
Hopefully the thaw in Cuba might lead to this persons arrest.
I hope it is defaced and I hope someone then calls the cops to complain over it..only for the cops to promptly tell them to f*ck off. I honestly don't get how people who are sane approved this. I guess that is the thing, there isn't a hint of sanity here.
Plus if Cuba won't get her back I'd say screw relations with Cuba then. They don't get to hold onto murderers. Something tells me she is not living in squalor or anything either(like she should be).
Originally posted by riv6672
Give it time, i'm sure folks supporting the mural will post.
Its the weekend, they're probably busy.
You are right they are probably busy, being crazy is a full time job.
I mean holy hell some people are going around saying "Assata taught me". THOSE are the type of people we need to be worried about. Round them all up and ask them what the hell they feel this trash has taught them.
The world just gets crazier and crazier if you browse some stories on that same site:
Tell me this is a joke. Intelligent people couldn't of done this.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Assata is a hero in some communities- she is considered by them to be the victim of a major miscarriage of justice.Understanding this is as simple as that.
Well any community that sees her as a hero is trash in itself. Christ, why aren't THESE ever the places folks decide to burn down?
Originally posted by Robtard
One thing I can say for sure, the guy who wrote that article is one angry and hate-filled man.
Are you basing this on other articles he wrote or something? Since the specific article in question, what did he write that was so bad to you? I agree he seems angry but then..this is something to be angry about. Everyone should be pissed off over this.
Gotta love a website that has a separate tab for "Hillary Exposed" news. Also, I run Adblock and got popup spam from it. Never a good sign. There are better sites you could have used.
I don't really think it's a good idea to have a mural for this, but in demanding it be taken down, there are free speech issues that are called into question. I don't bleed so liberal that I don't see the point of censorship at times (context is everything), but there are usually cogent philosophical arguments in defense of such art...even when the person/act/idea espoused by the art is reprehensible.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Assata is a hero in some communities- she is considered by them to be the victim of a major miscarriage of justice.Understanding this is as simple as that.
Yea right. Let us all understand and rationalize with this type of behavior of a cop killing, fugitive and prison escapee who now is in Cuba.
Understanding is paramount.
Originally posted by Surtur
Are you basing this on other articles he wrote or something? Since the specific article in question, what did he write that was so bad to you? I agree he seems angry but then..this is something to be angry about. Everyone should be pissed off over this.
This article. It's possible to write an article over something you're outraged over without painting yourself as a piece of shit yourself.
-"racism, equality, and junk. Good show there, "racism" which is a problem and "equality" which is something to strive for are quickly dismissed.
-"suppose lefties gravitate towards scumbags and losers. Actually, I don’t suppose that; it’s a fact. Liberals put the worst of the worst up on a pedestal because their values are garbage." Here he's lumping all Liberals and demonizing them on top of doing the angry "Liberalism is teh bad!"
-"Jesuit Catholic University would have a gay resource center, it’s downright confounding" Why is that necessarily "confounding" considering many religions institutes have tried to do away with their pass wrongs and prejudices. Probably because he thinks gay people are filth, but I'm just speculating on this one.
The entire approach of the article is hateful and the guy comes off as little more than a ranting angry *******.
Yeah, you can remain morally outraged at something while still attempting to rationally understand why someone might consider this guy a hero, and without taking arguments too far to the point of irrational hatred and generalizing. The two are not mutually exclusive. In fact, I'd say being able to do both is essential to making any sort of progress in a discussion about the mural. Without a detached understanding of the reasons for the mural, how can anyone begin to convince its supporters of their error (alleged or otherwise)? Otherwise it's just a bunch of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
In that sense, I think this mural will probably reveal as much about its detractors as its supporters.
Rationally understand why they'd consider her a hero? That assumes there is any actual rationality to it. There isn't. Just stupid people. You talk about moral outrage, but then talk about keeping the outrage in control. I don't know about you, but the word "outrage" doesn't really conjure up images of control in my mind.
I'd say the worst he did was lump everyone into one group, but the other things? Like the finding this confounding? I went to Catholic schools my entire life, I find it confusing as well. I don't get you thinking he thinks gay people are filth. I saw that reaction as a knock tot he Catholic church, not gay people. He seemed surprised the Catholic church was trying to be tolerant.
I'm even more confused, though, on how the quotes have NOTHING to do with being gay or gender or anything. They sound like the stereotypical BS a wannabe "freedom fighter" would spout. Also, why this woman? This is a school, surely they have people who know history and all that, yes? So they have a gay resource center..out of all the people alive or dead they could put up a mural of..they choose her?
Also I'm sure some misguided folk out there consider George Zimmermann or the guy who shot Michael Brown as "heroes". Yet why do I get the feeling people would respond a lot differently if they were given murals on the sides of schools?
Originally posted by Surtur
Rationally understand why they'd consider her a hero? That assumes there is any actual rationality to it. There isn't. Just stupid people. You talk about moral outrage, but then talk about keeping the outrage in control. I don't know about you, but the word "outrage" doesn't really conjure up images of control in my mind.I'd say the worst he did was lump everyone into one group, but the other things? Like the finding this confounding? I went to Catholic schools my entire life, I find it confusing as well. I don't get you thinking he thinks gay people are filth. I saw that reaction as a knock tot he Catholic church, not gay people. He seemed surprised the Catholic church was trying to be tolerant.
I'm even more confused, though, on how the quotes have NOTHING to do with being gay or gender or anything. They sound like the stereotypical BS a wannabe "freedom fighter" would spout.
Also I'm sure some misguided folk out there consider George Zimmermann or the guy who shot Michael Brown as "heroes". Yet why do I get the feeling people would respond a lot differently if they were given murals on the sides of schools?
My point is that outrage rarely creates change in the opposition; it just entrenches them more deeply in their beliefs. Were I railing against this in the media, I'd seek understanding so that my rebuttals would be catered to the situation, not to preconceived notions about generalized groups of people. And if I were truly outraged, I'd seek to focus that rage into some way of actually creating change, not just yelling into the wind, so to speak.
Because their answer to "why is he a hero?" is going to be vastly different from your answer to "why do they think he's a hero?" And in that divide is where inquiry should be centered. Rob's breakdown of the article's tone is case and point of the kind of thing that's the least productive in this situation.
I also have to say this is what pisses me off about the church. I was raised in it and luckily I got wise to what they were about, but let us break this down to the bare essentials. This in essence was a good thing. Catholics showing tolerance for gays? A good thing, and then they take a big dump all over it with an unnecessarily controversial mural on the side of the building.