Dr.Doom (What If) Vs Beyonders

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Got any proof that they are different? I have seen tons of evidence at the moment saying that they are the same. You haven't provided a single shred of proof beyond you wanting your pet character to win.

Doom with this massive power up wins.

2. Took doom years to kill the celestial race it took the beyonders 1 hit each lol.

(also not my Pet character try again bud labeling me based on my name doesn't mean anything.)

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Deodata is terrible

At least his Thor doesn't look like Santa Claus.

Originally posted by BeyonderGod
1. Someone posted a clear scan contradicting anything you stated here.....they aren't the same.

😕

Galan's post/scans show they were the same...

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Deodata was probably watching his kid play with his cheap ripoffs and started drawing an omnipotent race. He brought it to Hickman and Hickman was like "I just... I don't have time for you to redraw these right. You drew a fighter jet here with wheels ffs. Whatever it's done I guess. Glad I'm not paying you."

...A Gatling Gun from BEYOND, though. 👆

Maybe that explains where Odin's gun came from:

He is really sporting a piece of Beyonder super-tech right there. 👆

I'm connecting dots all over the f*cking place today. 👆

Originally posted by BeyonderGod
1. Someone posted a clear scan contradicting anything you stated here.....they aren't the same.

What ever happened to the Infinites?

Originally posted by BeyonderGod
1. Someone posted a clear scan contradicting anything you stated here.....they aren't the same.

2. Took doom years to kill the celestial race it took the beyonders 1 hit each lol.

(also not my Pet character try again bud labeling me based on my name doesn't mean anything.)

Who was it? If it was Galan, I have him on ignore, and don't trust a single scan he posts. He's famous on here for drawing his own comics and trying to pass it off as canon. To the point that posters ask him for permission to use his scans:

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Galan would you be okay if I used the Morlun scan for my respect thread?

😂

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He's famous on here for drawing his own comics and trying to pass it off as canon.

no sh!t. i mean did you SEE the beyond-formers he's trying to pass off as omnipotent beings? pfft. sh!t just can't be real.

Doom does not need a powerup to kill Beyonders.

Why is this still being debated? Brevoort already explained this:

The Beyonders are only well-equipped to kill the likes of Eternity, Living Tribunal, Infinity, Death, Celestials (the entire race), Master Order and Lord Chaos; and to destroy galaxies, universes and multiverses. But when they face the likes of Thor they are in real trouble. Earth-sphere superbeings are like kryptonite to them.

Therefore, Doom wins.

Originally posted by Magnon
Why is this still being debated? Brevoort already explained this:

The Beyonders are only well-equipped to kill the likes of Eternity, Living Tribunal, Infinity, Death, Celestials (the entire race), Master Order and Lord Chaos; and to destroy galaxies, universes and multiverses. But when they face the likes of Thor they are in real trouble. Earth-sphere superbeings are like kryptonite to them.

Therefore, Doom wins.

Or maybe Beyonders are Kryptonite to Eternity/LT etc...

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Or maybe Beyonders are Kryptonite to Eternity/LT etc...

Originally posted by Magnon
Why is this still being debated? Brevoort already explained this:

The Beyonders are only well-equipped to kill the likes of Eternity, Living Tribunal, Infinity, Death, Celestials (the entire race), Master Order and Lord Chaos; and to destroy galaxies, universes and multiverses. But when they face the likes of Thor they are in real trouble. Earth-sphere superbeings are like kryptonite to them.

Therefore, Doom wins.

Someone please tell me hickman is trolling about with the beyonders.......

I know you people know far more about comics than I do. But this is insane. Any character who could beat the Living Tribunal should be light years ahead of Doom or any of this silly prep characters like him and Batman have.

Using the Superman has a weakness and trying to rationalize Doom beating characters who could wipe out the Celestials and Living Tribunal. Living Tribunal really doesn't have any weakness.

One Celestial should be crush Doom and any other Earth based hero. The thing is with characters like Doom is they get built up by writers who like him to do things he should never be able to do. He is still a regular human. There is no way he should be able to contend with million plus year old deities who can destroy universes.

Originally posted by big juggy man
I know you people know far more about comics than I do. But this is insane. Any character who could beat the Living Tribunal should be light years ahead of Doom or any of this silly prep characters like him and Batman have.

Using the Superman has a weakness and trying to rationalize Doom beating characters who could wipe out the Celestials and Living Tribunal. Living Tribunal really doesn't have any weakness.

One Celestial should be crush Doom and any other Earth based hero. The thing is with characters like Doom is they get built up by writers who like him to do things he should never be able to do. He is still a regular human. There is no way he should be able to contend with million plus year old deities who can destroy universes.

The problem is, comic writers don't give two hoots about what we on battleboards think.

If it is a good story, they will write how Squirrel Girl, or Doom, rise above their tiers and beat deities.

Originally posted by Magnon
Why is this still being debated? Brevoort already explained this:

The Beyonders are only well-equipped to kill the likes of Eternity, Living Tribunal, Infinity, Death, Celestials (the entire race), Master Order and Lord Chaos; and to destroy galaxies, universes and multiverses. But when they face the likes of Thor they are in real trouble. Earth-sphere superbeings are like kryptonite to them.

Therefore, Doom wins.

Originally posted by Genii96
one beyonder shat on thor,hyperion and starbrand...not to mention,we don't even know if its the same ones that faced the abstracts that faced thor,as they may have different power levels,doom gets shat on

This thread has scans showing they're the same though...

Originally posted by ODG

I hardly think hundreds were needed to kill Hyperion/Thor. One Beyonder was well on its way to killing the both of them along with Starbrand before Kevin detonated on him preventing him from finishing the job.

Also, that Beyonder that was owning Thor/Hyperion/Starbrand seemed to be just taking its time, self assured of the win,
knowing it's complete supremacy over them.

That ending scene with tons of BeyonderS was just total overkill. (an epic illustrated exit for the heroes)
though they never stood a chance against even one.

Originally posted by Mr Master
👆 I saw those scans. I still haven't read the entire story but ... when was a Beyonder actually defeated?

Also, that Beyonder that was owning Thor/Hyperion/Starbrand seemed to be just taking its time, self assured of the win,
knowing it's complete supremacy over them.

That ending scene with tons of BeyonderS was just total overkill. (an epic illustrated exit for the heroes)
though they never stood a chance against even one.

Aybss/Ex morphing one into a pretzel against it's will and Starbrand jihad bombing the other can't (since it seems those two Beyonders were actually destroyed).

Hickman phucked up big time.

Yeah the 1 beyonder was owning them.