Gandalf vs Viktor

Gandalf the White

vs

Viktor

Definitely the right forum.

McClane beats both of them with a shoe.

Gandalf can win if he uses the forcefield he used against the Balrog and also uses the lightning he was shooting out of his sword at the Balrog.

lighting out of his sword......

Gandalf throws down this his enemy and smites his ruin upon the mountain side 👆

##1Wizard

Viktor wins.

viktor loses badly, wizard level badly.
forcefield that shattered the flaming sword.1

intense light to be created from the staff is likely to have UV level effects on viktor, i.e. burn him

pretty sure gandalf can hold up viktor like he did saruman in Fellowship

Exactly, that light was able to bat around Nazgul and Fell-beast. Wizard light FTW.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Viktor wins.

Quan votes for Viktor.... Shocking. 🙄

Is there anybody in all of fiction whom you don't think he can beat?

Originally posted by Star428
Quan votes for Viktor.... Shocking. 🙄

Is there anybody in all of fiction whom you don't think he can beat?

nope because you still havent proven how viktor wins against gandalf

Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
nope because you still havent proven how viktor wins against gandalf

thats just how you imagine him winning, you need to prove it with feats as to why he would win. Not how (stabbing) But why (higher strength, speed, ability, ect)

i shouldn't be telling you this quan. you have been here longer then me

Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
thats just how you imagine him winning, you need to prove it with feats as to why he would win. Not how (stabbing) But why (higher strength, speed, ability, ect)

i shouldn't be telling you this quan. you have been here longer then me

😂

Viktor is far stronger than the orcs Gandalf throws down with.

Better hide in a tree and toss those pine cones.

that has nothing valued in a one on one with gandalf at some serious ass kicking power.

once again i Believe Gandalf will win due to the current feats displayed-
- light burst from His staff shown to damage and scare off a fell beast (LOTR 3)
- Forcefield for defence that was able to shatter a high Balrog Tier Sword (LOTR 1)
- wizard Brand lightning (shown in LOTR 1)
- telekenetic ability to hold up viktor and throw him around (also LOTR 1)
- caused Aragons sword to suddenly become red hot(LOTR 2)- from this we know he is a "servant of the secret fire" (LOTR 1 ) and has demonstrated a level of fire magic- this servant speech implies he can manipulate fire and may be stronger with it in battle then just heating a sword. I.E he could possibly cook Viktor from the inside

Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
that has nothing valued in a one on one with gandalf at some serious ass kicking power.

once again i Believe Gandalf will win due to the current feats displayed-
- light burst from His staff shown to damage and scare off a fell beast (LOTR 3)
- Forcefield for defence that was able to shatter a high Balrog Tier Sword (LOTR 1)
- wizard Brand lightning (shown in LOTR 1)
- telekenetic ability to hold up viktor and throw him around (also LOTR 1)
- caused Aragons sword to suddenly become red hot(LOTR 2)- from this we know he is a "servant of the secret fire" (LOTR 1 ) and has demonstrated a level of fire magic- this servant speech implies he can manipulate fire and may be stronger with it in battle then just heating a sword. I.E he could possibly cook Viktor from the inside

Yes, he can do those things but he lacks the speed and strength of Viktor. Viktor carves him up. Gandalf may attempt those tactics but he will be killed in the meantime because for the most part he swings his staff and hits orcs on the head. He also was on the ropes with a group vs one cave troll.

Viktor would slaughter a cave troll.

But in ROTK Gandalf says Saruman no longer has any power. So is Wormtongue shanking him that impressive?

Also do we know the light Gandalf creates is actually sunlight? Do fell beasts normally get burned by sunlight? But no because those things were flying around during the day, same with nazguls.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Wormtongue stabbed and killed Saruman the white.

That was after Gandalf revoked Saruman's power. That was the whole point of the scene.

"Saruman, your staff is broken." - Gandalf The White #1 Wizard

#helpingpeopleunderstandlotr

You can't expect thedkeffect to know the context behind a scene when he's never seen the movie.

Originally posted by Robtard
That was after Gandalf revoked Saruman's power. That was the whole point of the scene.

"Saruman, your staff is broken." - Gandalf The White #1 Wizard

#helpingpeopleunderstandlotr

Gandalf had the authority to banish him from the order.

Witch King destroyed Gandalf the White's staff. That was the same guy beaten by a torch with his friends against one guy.

#gandalfthewizardwhohidesuptreeswhentroublecomes