Originally posted by Genesis-SoldierGandalf also died. A slow Balrog took him down with him by way of his whip despite being far slower than Viktor.
Gandalf killed balrog
cavetrolls never broke gandalfs neck
(try watching the movies)witch king was later killed by a opponent weaker then gandalf
I never claimed the cave troll did. Gabdalf needed the fellowships help in defeating one. Watch the film.
So that makes Gabdalf look even weaker since he was unable to do so.
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Originally posted by RobtardThat's what it took Gandalf to do so I agree under his own power he was unable to do so. Magical flame which didn't set anything on fire so it's wrong to assume it reacts the same way as normal fire. Viktor is faster and due to his superior strength to Gandalf wins. That's a little too off topic and I'd rather bring the focus back to his superiority to the gay wizard, Ian.
It took an electrically/lightning charged magical sword to finally take down the Balrog. So how exactly is Victor going to do it, let alone get close enough to do it as the Balrog has flames protruding from its body?
Originally posted by quanchi112
That's what it took Gandalf to do so I agree under his own power he was unable to do so. Magical flame which didn't set anything on fire so it's wrong to assume it reacts the same way as normal fire. Viktor is faster and due to his superior strength to Gandalf wins. That's a little too off topic and I'd rather bring the focus back to his superiority to the gay wizard, Ian.
Gandalf used a weapon and his own magical ability, so you're just trying to downplay again.
Because Gandalf is immune to fire. There's multiple instances where he shows this. He also hints as to the reason why.
The fire shows heat and it would burn Victor, unless he's immune somehow. You're the one that mentioned Victor defeating the Balrog, if you want to concede it, no problem.
Originally posted by RobtardThe weapon was amped thereby proving that without the Lightning he was unable to best the Balrog.
Gandalf used a weapon and his own magical ability, so you're just trying to downplay again.Because Gandalf is immune to fire. There's multiple instances where he shows this. He also hints as to the reason why.
The fire shows heat and it would burn Victor, unless he's immune somehow. You're the one that mentioned Victor defeating the Balrog, if you want to concede it, no problem.
I think strongly resistant but he doesn't burn anything or anyone else so there's no reason to attribute this magical fire as the same as regular fire.
Viktor is a much quicker and strong enough opponent to best the Balrog. That isn't the topic so I won't derail. Viktor beats Gandalf here.
Originally posted by RobtardHe received an outside power source to do so showing his inherent magic is not enough.
He used a weapon and his own magic to do so. You're just trying to downplay again.No, Gandalf has survived fire unscathed multiple times. It's fire, so we go with the obvious and it burns, unless you have proof that it doesn't.
How is Victor going to defeat the Balrog exactly? Yet you keep doing it.
It is magical fire and we don't see it burn anything so we don't just assume when magic is involved. Ever.
Who the hell is victor first off ? Viktor physically inflicts enough pain with his swords to beat the slow beast.
Received via his own magical ability.
We see it producing heat and it's fire. It not burning Gandalf is due to Gandalf's immunity to fire, as noted.
Calm down. Prove Victor could get close enough without burning. Then prove Victor's regular sword would take down a being made of rock, fire, smoke and shadow. Two things you need to prove. Go.
Originally posted by RobtardIt was from an outside source just like Superman sundipping isn't something he can do anytime anywhere.
Received via his own magical ability.We see it producing heat and it's fire. It not burning Gandalf is due to Gandalf's immunity to fire, as noted.
Calm down. Prove Victor could get close enough without burning. Then prove Victor's regular sword would take down a being made of rock, fire, smoke and shadow. Two things you need to prove. Go.
There is no proof the magical fire burns anything though.
No one burned. It is up to you to prove people getting close burn without any evidence. He wasn't all rock and we see swords hurt him. You back your claims in another thread. In this thread Viktor wins.
I've given you multiple chances to prove your case and you dodge and try to shift the burden of proof. That tells me you know Victor couldn't take out the Balrog but are too arrogant to just admit the error and move on.
Anyhow, back on topic, Gandalf blast Victor with his massive TK (H1) and then burst Vic's head open easier than he did solid rock (H1) with a tap of his staff. All feats supported by screen evidence and can't be denied.
This thread is over; best part, I only had to use Grey and not White feats, cos that's how epic Gandalf is 👆
Originally posted by RobtardHe does based off sword slashes which did hurt the Balrog. Gandalf was too weak to finish him but considering he needed help against a cave troll and hides up trees I can't say I'm surprised.
I've given you multiple chances to prove your case and you dodge and try to shift the burden of proof. That tells me you know Victor couldn't take out the Balrog but are too arrogant to just admit the error and move on.Anyhow, back on topic, Gandalf blast Victor with his massive TK (H1) and then burst Vic's head open easier than he did solid rock (H1) with a tap of his staff. All feats supported by screen evidence and can't be denied.
This thread is over; best part, I only had to use Grey and not White feats, cos that's how epic Gandalf is 👆
Tk just knocked them down. Gandalf isn't quicker than Viktor in combat. After he used the tk blast he attempted to flee.
Viktor wins. Run from me just like Gandalf does from his opponents. The only reason he fought the Balrog was due to the Balrog catching him with his fire whip.