What does Batman brings to the table

I know this isn't a versus thread, but since this section gets the most flow, i thought I'll put it here.

Like the title says, what does Batman really brings to the table in the schemes of things. I would like an actually reasoning why he's useful and not that he's the Batman answer.

Authors for some reason thinks its smart of them to make the human out maneuver the superhuman beings. With Bruce being the ultimate plot device.

So lets' look at the main JL, and what they bring and compares it to Bruce. For this, were only using new 52.

Strategist- Diana was trained by the God of war himself, nothing Bruce come with that she herself couldn't thought off.

Detective- Barry is a forensics scientist. Not only that, since he's the Flash, he's brain allows him to do his job far better than Bruce. Anything Bruce could come up with, Barry would have already though of it.

Martial Artist- Again Diana's being trained by her mother, the Amazons, and Ares the God of War himself.

knowledge- People always claimed how knowledgeable Bruce is, yet forgets there's a guy with a ring that as knowledge about the universe.

So again, what it is that Bruce brings that makes him such a powerful force that the authors makes the other Leagues act stupid around him and magically forgets there powers?

Dumb thread

You don't have to answer if you think its dumb, you know that right?

As much as I wonder about the spirit of the thread like this, I'll give it a go.

Saying that she was trained by Ares is nice, but until we see actual feats of strategy from her that match up or exceed his, I'm not really sure an argument can be made. Batman, more than anyone in the League, outsmarts villains in ways that I honestly don't see any of the other characters doing. Is plot a part of it? Sure, but you still need a Batman-like character to do said things.

After all, how unimpressive would Superman be if he never punched a villain but instead found some clever way to outwit them. He's not Sherlock Holmes, and neither is Diana.

Barry is a forensic scientist... Which is VERY different from being a detective. They're completely different departments, and with good reason. A fair amount of the skills might intersect, but a lot don't. So, like the others, Flash falls behind Batman because simply put, no matter how fast your brain works, if you lack the instinct to do something, you're not going to magically get better at it.

Look at Reed and Doom, for example.

martial arts doesn't come in to it most of the time, tbh. And if it did, it wouldn't matter if you try to judo chop someone with skin as dense as reinforced steel.

knowledge? Hal might have the ring, but he's not a genius. Batman is. Batman has the knowledge and knows how to apply it in ways Hal/Kyle/John/Guy ever could.

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Like I said, I do have my doubts about the spirit of the thread, but taking it at its merits? If you don't think Batman really brings anything to the team, and are going to wave anything he does away as the writer just wanting the Human to look good, then I feel like you're kind of missing the point.

And this is Batman for chrissakes. He gets more leeway than most.

Thread of the year.

Originally posted by SquallX
What does Batman brings to the table

He brings the table.

Originally posted by Inhuman
He brings the table.

^ Literally.

Lowkey batman hating

Originally posted by Inhuman
He brings the table.

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Anyway, Batman is an infinitely better strategist than WW. Trained by the god of war? Give me a break. WW is never shown to be a master strategist. Heck, Ares isn't a master of strategy himself, that Athena's sphere.

Originally posted by ares834
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Anyway, Batman is an infinitely better strategist than WW. Trained by the god of war? Give me a break. WW is never shown to be a master strategist. Heck, Ares isn't a master of strategy himself, that Athena's sphere.

He brings money to publishers. Wonder Woman doesn't.

He brings all the boys to the yard.

Batmans the guy that thinks outside the box, he's needed in a team like the Justice League cuz he can't take anything for granted, he's a mere human so he has to plan everything in advance to make up for his lack of superpowers, this makes him very dangerous because unlike most heroes who are reactive, Batman is very much proactive, couple that with his vast wealth, skill and resources makes him a very formidable opponent or teammate

What does Batman bring to the table...
He is human at least in relation to his other teammates- and since our species is filled with narcissists one can see the appeal of having one of "us" being respected and valued by super beings . Or he is a metaphor for how humans in relations to other animals find ways to compete and even succeed even though our physical attributes are lacking. Realistically Bruce is completely useless if you logically look at the power sets he's around assuming his team is not MR. All the team members bring everything to the table that batman does and so much more. Batman's real super power is being the easiest to write convolutedly well 👍 Scott Synders run is quite amusing and the best since Miller's vision

He brings money and that big ol' crimefighting computer of this.

It's also that he's another resourceful member. It often helps to simply have another pair of hands or eyes.

It's not like WW should be discarded because Superman does everything she does.

Wonderman still has a place and function on the Avengers even when Thor is there.

This thread is not me bashing on Batman, far from it. I like Batman as a character, but when you have god like beings that can do anything you can, what good are you?

PR mentioned Sherlock, what good is Sherlock when you put him against a being like Superman?

Well, he should be useless.

Theres no reason why Superman cant superspeed-think his way to any solution a million times faster than Bats.

He brings potato salad to the table.

He brings ... The Kick.

Batman also shows how vengeful, scheming, clever and determined, as well as creative and adaptive a nonuber human can be simply because he doesn't have powers and has to try that much harder to keep up.

He also brings The 'Tude and The Voice. As Superman himself once noted, no one ever makes fun of Batman for wearing underwear on the outside.

He brings the "human" element. So imbeciles can say "oh look we have an ORDINARY human doing these great things, awesome!". Even though Batman is so far from what the real world considers "human" it's not even funny.

Oh, he brings lots of money to the table. Also paranoia.