What will happen in Matrix Revolutions?

Started by highelf17 pages

Hi..
this matrix thing has suck us from our real life....like taking a red pill
somebody please give me blue pill.... 😘

IMHO:
- Machine need energy....
- Humans need reality.....

So, what if the matrix was created both by human and machine after the war was over?
because human can give the energy and machine give us reality (a perfect reality).....human are tired with "un-perfect physical reality", they want a "perfect mind reality" that can be controlled.

The matrix is "Endless Monument of Peace" between human and machine....!!

Ok....maybe my opinion sound stupid....but i am just give another red pills.....guys!

there is no way that they are going to free EVERY one in the third movie!!!
they are gonna have to make another movie, or at least a BIG game.

They are making a game - Matrix Online where the story is gonna be constantly evolving 🙂

they are going to continue the trilogy with the online game ... with i think won't hava an ending ... because it's a MMORPG ... i mean ... you pay a lot of money to buy the game (ok not that much) and then you pay about 5-10$ monthly .. just so you finish it in some time and never be able to play it ... i don;t think so

I agree to the 2 matrixes idea and i also think neo won't wake up from the coma so soon .. i think the fight between neo and smith will be while they are both in a "coma" (i say this because at the end of the film you can see them both as they lie on the tables and in the revolutions trailer you cand se him wakeing up in the same pozition ... i think waking up in the matrix .... the first one ... there i think he will talk to the oracle and fight smith) ... this coma is only a way to travel between matrixes

it's only an ideea ...

lordnikon, take it or leave it cause that is what they are going to do. It say's so on the official site!

Yea i think sifer is right on this one.

Did anyone notice what happened in the first Matrix:
when in the beggining agents got Neo in the room the scene was seen through the multiple TV sets and the screen vibrated just the same as it did in the Archtechts room going through the Neo's reactions ?

Indeed 🙂

some questions:

Ok, Neo is a program, which can be assumed based on what the Architect said: "Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent in the programming of the matrix" and the Oracle also said that the choise Neo will make was already determined, he had only to understand it. But why then she talked about his free will in the first movie ?

just to give him the ideea that he does have a choice ...
.. but i don't think he is a program ... i think only his powers are uploaded into him ... like a "the one" program giving him super powers

I think by "Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent in the programming of the matrix" that he only was trying to tell us that neo is the flaw in the system, that he won't accept the matrix not that he is a program

ok, first of all, neo is the systemic anomaly of whom the architect was talking. he is the one (sorry for the lack of a better word) who ultimately breaks the rules of the system in all respects. he decides that instead of choosing the end of the current version of the matrix, he saves the woman he loves. as you may have not surmised from the elevated language of the dialogue between neo and the architect, the previous ones held to their designed purpose (they did not love, they had no conception of hope). furthermore the fact that neo was beginning to be able to use his power in the real world shows that he is the messiah of this world. remember also that in his conversation with the oracle, she said that neo didn't believe in all that fate crap. i'm not making any guesses as to how the plot unfolds, i'm just saying that the hints are there throughout the two movies. hell, maybe thomas anderson will wake up at his desk at that software company and it will all have been a dream, or maybe it will be a computer program that he was writing. now wouldn't that just suck? 💃

Yeppidy do da yes it would.

Just a few thoughts

Just a few of my own thoughts about the matrix:

First: Neo cannot be "Just" a program because it only has a minute chance of ever occurring, and code doesn't just randomly become AI.

Second: My thought is why couldn't they be in a nearly infinite number
of matrices? there is no definite record of how long the human race has been locked in the "original" matrix, thus i propose this. Once the human race was put into the matrix they continued their normal technological development from that point. Why then couldn't there be like an infinite recursion type of thing where they basically make the same mistake again(IE creating AI and letting it kick their butts) then the AI within the matrix puts them in another matrix go to beginning again. We humans are known to repeat our mistakes besides isn't reality what you make of it? if they get out of this secondary matrix they are in now who is to say that they aren't in another matrix type environment. the human race could by this point in the story could have been under machine control for hundreds of thousands of years. or even millions, and they wouldn't know the difference.

If you have eliminated the impossible whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth

No, Neo himself is not a program. The anomaly is. Remember this: In M1 Morpheus says of the avatars in the Matrix that they’re “mental projections of your digital self”. The rebels are not actually uploading THEMSELVES to the Matrix, just a program: their digital selves. Those ARE programs.
In Neos case his digital self now includes the anomaly after he chose to become The One in M1. The real world IS real, otherwise why did Smith try to get Zions access-codes in M1? If the city was part of the Matrix why bother?

The programs in the Matrix do not lie. The agents, Merovingian, Architect etc may be vile antagonist, but this far they’ve still told the truth. Which is why we’re getting what we see. A Matrix, a real world, and this is the 6th loop of this Matrix, after the first perfect one that crashed.

Well if the architect said he had to choose one of the doors to chose the fate of zion...and one would estroy it and etc. then wouldnt that have to mean that the "real world" is a program because the door he chose would control the fate? And u need programs to control machines...

Even assuming that the avatars are programs you cannot simply insert random code into another program and have it function, or be remotely stable. the program would crash and cause a lot of errors. Also it if the rebels were merely uploading programs to the matrix and not themselves then how does it kill them when the "program" dies in the matrix? Also how does the guy in the "real world" get infected by Smith if he only uploaded a program? As for the machines telling the truth think about this the Oracle said originally that Neo was NOT the one she was either lying or she didn't know(in which case she isn't a very good oracle). As for the matrix being in its 6th loop how long are the loops and how do you know that zion is the real world.
We do know that every time an anomaly occurs the rebels very nearly get wiped out, and we know that some live on. If the "real world" were so real then why wouldn't the machines do the logical thing and wipe out the resistance. Machines are incapable of doing anything that is not logical its just not how a computer works even a simple AI always does things the easy way they adapt to a situation and find the easiest solution in this case create a matrix, and create another matrix around that one that can contain the people that do not accept the programming of the primary matrix. The people that get out of the primary matrix think they are out and think that they are in the "real world" so they would not be thinking they are still in a program. As for why Smith wants into Zions main frame computer he said it himself he wants out of the matrix. if Zion were part of a different matrix perhaps Smith wants to be part of that system. i assume that will be explained in the next movie.

If you have eliminated the impossible whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth

You guys should right a book! 😉

1266> No, a choice of doors does not mean Zion is part of the Matrix, how did you get that idea? The machines exist outside the Matrix, which is STILL ONLY a virtual reality with programs, digital selves and AIs running around. The Architect tells Neo, that unless he freely chooses the door to the Source, not only will the sentinels destroy all humans in Zion, but a cataclysmic system crash will kill every human still plugged into the Matrix.

Xabbu> But the avatars/digital selves ARE programs. Smart and sentient programs, controlled by humans, but still programs. The Matrix is a virtual world, it’s a program, and you can’t stick anything into that save other programs. Back in the early pascal-days, I both could (and did) stick more programming lines into an already working program, and it not only worked, it even did more than before. Just as Neo, after having chosen to become the One, has the anomaly code but ONLY in his digital self (he can’t perform his feats in the real world).
As Morpheus tells Neo in M1, when Neo falls from the test skyscraper and Neo says “I thought you said it wasn’t real”, we get the answer that the body can’t function without the mind. If the mind believes it dies in the virtual world, the body dies in the real world.
Bane gets infected while IN the Matrix. Smith infects Banes digital self, his “mental projection of his digital self”, and once the mind is de-digitalized (if you like) back to electro-chemical signals in Banes brain, there is Smith.
The Oracle told the truth. She told neo that he had the gift, but it looked like he was waiting for something, maybe his next life. Neo dies when Smith shoots him, Trinity resurrects Neo with a kiss, and now, in his “next life” he is the One.
A loop would be 100 years, since Morpheus tells us it’s been 100 years since the previous One. An as for the real world being real, please re-read previous post by this signature.
All rebels get wiped out at the end of a loop. The One is allowed to chose 23 people FROM the matrix (hence the stories of the man who freed the first of “us”).
The machines need Zion to survive, otherwise, what would the Architect use to blackmail the One to choose the Source? That is the easiest solution. Create a myth, a legend, a religion, a prophecy even of a One that will end the war. Then make sure the anomaly returns to the Source.
If Zion was part of the Matrix, 1 % of its inhabitants would reject that world, too. None have done that. The Matrix only works if people accept it even if it is only on a nearly unconscious level. And 99 % do so.
Agent Smith hated, amongst things, the smell. It’s probably not better in the real world. He wanted to access codes to end the war, too.

you should look at my 6 day theory post, i'm betting none of you even noticed this biblical reference😛