Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson Says Black Adam Would Crush Black Bolt!!

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Waaah. Depictions trump all, but if I don't like it, then I will ignore it waaaah. It's too old - but there's been no depictions more recent than that one, so I will ignore it waah.

Damn, and you could've used that post to have replied to mine addressing speed....oh well.

The reason you are acting childish is because you have no counter argument. You didn't prove he couldn't handle BAs speed so you try to switch the argument to lack of strength and break out decades old low showing. You are the one crying a river.

Originally posted by Invisible Sanji
Probably, for the last 20 years there's been discussion of how speed kills in comic book vs threads. C'mon guys, let's be better than using childish defense mechanisms to make our point. Speed doesn't give an automatic victory as we have all seen in the comics. Neither should it be totally ignored. Can't we admit Black Bolt would have a very tough time against speed-blitzing (which Adam does use), but that doesn't mean he'd have his heart ripped out in a second? Let's be fair enough to give Black Bolt enough credit to at least fight back?

Black Bolt has fantastic modern showings and so has Black Adam. Both probably have a trump-card attack that the other cannot fully defend. Both have done well enough against the power-house characters in their respective universe. This shouldn't be a stomp either way.

DCnu Black Adam helped move the moon w/ Sinestro. Getting hit by that kind of power is nothing to sneeze at, but Black Bolt has withstood Gladiator (who also blitzes). Bolts whisper is devastating, but Post-Crisis Black Adam received a football sized tesseract in his brain and survived.

One of these characters should be given an edge. There's no clear-cut superiority here.

Excellent post and breath of fresh air!! I've said for years, when heralds clash, a speed advantage is NOT the different in the outcome. Some posters ignore this fact in favor of their favored character or favored comic book universe and it's ****ing sad.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
It has nothing to do with my logic. There is someone here claiming that BAs SPEED would be so overwhelming that BB wouldn't have a chance to compete. That has NOT happened in comics thus far.

That's comics, though.

But if you're not a dedicated speedster, usually that doesn't happen in comics.

How many times has Gladiator blitzed anyone, ever? How many times has Captain Marvel or Black Adam done it?

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
WTF does the scan have to do with speed? Stop wasting posts.

You are supposedly a veteran, yet you turn to bush league tactics quickly. Almost all characters including Hulk and Superman were depicted as weaker several decades ago. I am referencing modern clashes with Gladiator and you are showing me a fight with the thing from about 4 decades ago. Desperate.

Well, put it this way.

In a Wonder Woman thread, someone posted that WW had more speed. Your response? Lol, she wasn't moving at lightspeed when Deathstroke pieced her up.

I am not arguing against this, btw. Yes, it did happen. Deathstroke tagged her. Despite her having other showings where she was moving much much faster. Comics happen.

Now, you show Gladiator having bullet timing reflexes, and casually snatching the bullet out of thin air. Then show his fight with Black Bolt, as proof that Bolt has the reflexes to deal with a speedster like Glads.

Should I turn around and say, lol, Glads wasn't moving at bullet timing speed when Bolt punched him in the face?

Yes, yes you should.

Originally posted by Invisible Sanji
Probably, for the last 20 years there's been discussion of how speed kills in comic book vs threads. C'mon guys, let's be better than using childish defense mechanisms to make our point. Speed doesn't give an automatic victory as we have all seen in the comics. Neither should it be totally ignored. Can't we admit Black Bolt would have a very tough time against speed-blitzing (which Adam does use), but that doesn't mean he'd have his heart ripped out in a second? Let's be fair enough to give Black Bolt enough credit to at least fight back?

Black Bolt has fantastic modern showings and so has Black Adam. Both probably have a trump-card attack that the other cannot fully defend. Both have done well enough against the power-house characters in their respective universe. This shouldn't be a stomp either way.

DCnu Black Adam helped move the moon w/ Sinestro. Getting hit by that kind of power is nothing to sneeze at, but Black Bolt has withstood Gladiator (who also blitzes). Bolts whisper is devastating, but Post-Crisis Black Adam received a football sized tesseract in his brain and survived.

One of these characters should be given an edge. There's no clear-cut superiority here.

I like this guy. He has been a great poster so far. Anyways, using Black Adam speed as a trump card with him consistently using it during this battle is like me saying BB would start off with a scream and keep it going during the entire fight. Both is wrong and goes against the character. Black Adam wins by the way.

Teth would get the high majority 7/10 here, unless BB goes straight to the lungs, which is out of context for him.

Originally posted by cdtm
That's comics, though.

But if you're not a dedicated speedster, usually that doesn't happen in comics.

How many times has Gladiator blitzed anyone, ever? How many times has Captain Marvel or Black Adam done it?

Correct, so why would a poster then say that it was a no contest because BB "wouldn't see BA coming?"

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well, put it this way.

In a Wonder Woman thread, someone posted that WW had more speed. Your response? Lol, she wasn't moving at lightspeed when Deathstroke pieced her up.

I am not arguing against this, btw. Yes, it did happen. Deathstroke tagged her. Despite her having other showings where she was moving much much faster. Comics happen.

Now, you show Gladiator having bullet timing reflexes, and casually snatching the bullet out of thin air. Then show his fight with Black Bolt, as proof that Bolt has the reflexes to deal with a speedster like Glads.

Should I turn around and say, lol, Glads wasn't moving at bullet timing speed when Bolt punched him in the face?

It doesn't matter if you turn in around, it all comes back to BB being able to deal with BA's speed like he has consistently dealt with Gladiator's speed. Likewise, Thor and has dealt with Gladiator and Hyperion's speed.

Originally posted by carver9
I like this guy. He has been a great poster so far. Anyways, using Black Adam speed as a trump card with him consistently using it during this battle is like me saying BB would start off with a scream and keep it going during the entire fight. Both is wrong and goes against the character. Black Adam wins by the way.

Based on what? Do you think BA is a better combatant that Gladiator, a character who's every reason for living is to be a more formidable combatant? I agree with Leo, you guys overrated BA so much it's comical.

Black Adam for the majority

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Correct, so why would a poster then say that it was a no contest because BB "wouldn't see BA coming?"

Same reason Wally/Barry finshes the Rogues at the bell, which also never happens in comics.

Guys like Quan complain about CBR logic all the time, and how they boil a fight down to power sets, but I can't see the "full capacity" rule being anything but an appeal to power sets. Otherwise, someone could argue Captain Cold beats Barry like he does in the comics, where he never, ever gets blitzed right away.u

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Based on what? Do you think BA is a better combatant that Gladiator, a character who's every reason for living is to be a more formidable combatant? I agree with Leo, you guys overrated BA so much it's comical.

Black Adam holds every advantage minis versatility. He would also go for the kill during the onset of the battle.

Originally posted by carver9
Black Adam holds every advantage minis versatility. He would also go for the kill during the onset of the battle.

Versatility and an uber attack capable of injuring or killing BA, plus more skill.

But you didn't answer my question.

Originally posted by carver9
Black Adam holds every advantage minis versatility. He would also go for the kill during the onset of the battle.

I dont see BB holding back for kill either..

Originally posted by Supermex
I dont see BB holding back for kill either..

BB is kinda famous for holding back - unless he knows the person can take it, or he's desperate, of course (Vulcan, Thanos).

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
It doesn't matter if you turn in around, it all comes back to BB being able to deal with BA's speed like he has consistently dealt with Gladiator's speed. Likewise, Thor and has dealt with Gladiator and Hyperion's speed.

So your arguments only apply when it suits you. Gladiator has always used his full speed in all of his fights, and if he gets tagged, its only because his opponents also possess that level of speed.

But if it's a DC character - lol. Flash gets tagged by Cap. WW never shows her speed, because she gets tagged by Deathstroke.

Originally posted by Supermex
I dont see BB holding back for kill either..

Lol, exactly.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
BB is kinda famous for holding back - unless he knows the person can take it, or he's desperate, of course (Vulcan, Thanos).

He uses his voice now more than ever. He spoke just to crash the huge doors to Kang's castle. He's definitely break it out on Adam so give me a break.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Versatility and an uber attack capable of injuring or killing BA, plus more skill.

But you didn't answer my question.

About Gladiator? They used the white noise to take his scream away and Gladiator one shot koed him right after that. Don't think that's a good showing to use for Bolt.