Originally posted by carver9
Sure but first let's do a strength ft war with Superman or Hulk vs Eternity. You down?
Awww, cute that you try and move the goalposts. I so love how you are now trying to narrow it down - scared when you realised your post about LT/Galactus may actually backfire on you?
May as well do a Batman vs LT in a benchpressing feat war - shall we do that?
Or even better, Olympic rules Batman vs Gladiator benchpressing. On a bench, with an Oly bar. Shall we do a ft war?
Originally posted by carver9
I'm not even discussing that topic anymore but...are you implying that Flash is faster than abstracts as well?
He's outraced Death. Who is an abstract. So yes.
Barry AND Wally have raced against Death. So not just implying. I am flat out stating that Flash can give abstracts a good race, and can win.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Awww, cute that you try and move the goalposts. I so love how you are now trying to narrow it down - scared when you realised your post about LT/Galactus may actually backfire on you?May as well do a Batman vs LT in a benchpressing feat war - shall we do that?
Or even better, Olympic rules Batman vs Gladiator benchpressing. On a bench, with an Oly bar. Shall we do a ft war?
Lol... I think you caught on to my point. Sometimes we have to look at the scope of power instead of always relying on fts.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Everyone succumbs to his/her power. Of dying.
People die naturally. Death doesn't kill beings, outside sources does. Sometimes Death intervenes (Marvel's Death) but in most cases, it is done by an outside source. So, what has DC Death done? Marvel's Death have some insane fts, what about DCs.
Originally posted by carver9
Lol... I think you caught on to my point. Sometimes we have to look at the scope of power instead of always relying on fts.
Nice. So are you saying that despite not having the feats, the Hulk IS the strongest one there is?
This goes back to the OP. Has Hulk lived up to being the strongest one there is? But of course, you have no answer to this, and will simply try and twist and turn. Of course, now that I've called you out, you will attempt to backpedal.
Originally posted by carver9
People die naturally. Death doesn't kill beings, outside sources does. Sometimes Death intervenes (Marvel's Death) but in most cases, it is done by an outside source. So, what has DC Death done? Marvel's Death have some insane fts, what about DCs.
Erm, DCs Death does the same. That's the whole reason for the Black Flash/Black Racer. Do you even know what you're typing at this point????? You are just trying to argue for argument's sake, which shouldn't surprise me considering you've already said you're not posting in this thread to discuss the thread itself.
Flash stomps all over Hulk with regards to living up to his rep.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Nice. So are you saying that despite not having the feats, the Hulk IS the strongest one there is?This goes back to the OP. Has Hulk lived up to being the strongest one there is? But of course, you have no answer to this, and will simply try and twist and turn. Of course, now that I've called you out, you will attempt to backpedal.
I don't know what Hulk is. In order for me to get a grasp on how powerful/strong he is compared to the most powerful beings in the Universe, he would have to be put into a confrontational situation against said beings. This has never happened so I can't answer your question. With that said, I don't know if Hulk is the strongest being in the universe.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Erm, DCs Death does the same. That's the whole reason for the Black Flash/Black Racer. Do you even know what you're typing at this point????? You are just trying to argue for argument's sake, which shouldn't surprise me considering you've already said you're not posting in this thread to discuss the thread itself.Flash stomps all over Hulk with regards to living up to his rep.
Sigh*
Originally posted by carver9
I don't know what Hulk is. In order for me to get a grasp on how powerful/strong he is compared to the most powerful beings in the Universe, he would have to be put into a confrontational situation against said beings. This has never happened so I can't answer your question. With that said, I don't know if Hulk is the strongest being in the universe.
Nice. So in ALL of these threads, when they involve cross company fights, you obviously stay out of them, right, because until the two characters actually have a confrontation, you cannot possibly answer the question, who would win, Hulk or (random DC character).
I have never seen Usain Bolt race a Ferrari over 400m. Until I see them race, I cannot tell you who is faster.
I have never seen a 7 year old double amputee with cancer fight Tyson in his prime. Until I see them in the ring, I cannot tell you if Tyson would win or not.
This is most liberating. I can see why you're so chilled all the time.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Nice. So in ALL of these threads, when they involve cross company fights, you obviously stay out of them, right, because until the two characters actually have a confrontation, you cannot possibly answer the question, who would win, Hulk or (random DC character).I have never seen Usain Bolt race a Ferrari over 400m. Until I see them race, I cannot tell you who is faster.
I have never seen a 7 year old double amputee with cancer fight Tyson in his prime. Until I see them in the ring, I cannot tell you if Tyson would win or not.
This is most liberating. I can see why you're so chilled all the time.
Lol...come on Dark, you knew what I meant. Ok, let's begin this. I will post the closest thing I have to Hulk strength vs powerful beings and add a Lil spice to my post. One sec...
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...come on Dark, you knew what I meant. Ok, let's begin this. I will post the closest thing I have to Hulk strength vs powerful beings and add a Lil spice to my post. One sec...
No, that's not how this works.
You have to showcase how many beings are above Hulk in strength.
Ok...to everyone that is reading this, I'm not saying this is an average for Hulk because it isn't but this is a good strength ft in comparison to powerful beings.
The In Betweener is split into two. The scan I am presenting is HALF of his power level. The guy was presented pretty high during this issue. High to the point that his presence was flaying the threads of reality...
http://s1007.photobucket.com/user/lgu88/media-full/dec4/longshot03d_zps46b998ba.jpg.html
Great display of power there but that wasn't it. One of the halves was...
http://s1007.photobucket.com/user/lgu88/media-full/dec4/longshot03a_zpse2456a79.jpg.html
He calls random forces from all different time lines across universes and one of those beings...
http://s1007.photobucket.com/user/lgu88/media-full/dec4/longshot03c_zps1bf4890c.jpg.html
One of them possessed the Infinite Gauntlet and another was a Phoenix user. They were controlled by 'one half' of the order power. Let's proceed.
Here the In Betweener has Hulk contained. Looks pretty simple huh? We have a guy that's presence is fraying reality. A guy that has enough power to control/manipulate an IG user and the Phoenix Force containing the Hulk...
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17094436/Longshot_Saves_The_Marvel_Universe_002-014.jpg.html
Here he tells us that it is taking all he has to contain Hulk (he brings up his friends as well, I will get to that part).
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17094438/Longshot_Saves_The_Marvel_Universe_002-015.jpg.html
He then let's Hulk go...
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17094439/Longshot_Saves_The_Marvel_Universe_002-016.jpg.html
Look at what he say...
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17094441/Longshot_Saves_The_Marvel_Universe_002-017.jpg.html
"At least I have gotten MOST of my power back since it isn't diverted at that thing".
This is Savage Hulk we are talking about here but I'm not done. Let's find out how much power In between was using against Hulk.
The reason Longshot chose this room to open (that was containing the Hulk)...
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17094436/Longshot_Saves_The_Marvel_Universe_002-014.jpg.html
Because the restricted power was concentrated in one area. The half of In Betweener was using so much power against Hulk that Strange thought that the room had the 'other half of the In Betweener' in it.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/118689/3469211-2862970406-34662.jpg
Ya know, the same Chaos that possessed some extremely powerful beings. The one that is HALF as powerful. So he was basically focusing nearly ALL of his power in one area.
Now the crazy thing is, this is Savage Hulk. No WWH (who is far more powerful and had better control of his strength) or WBH (who is the most powerful version of Hulk), this is your standard Hulk. Great showing overall and a good indication on Hulk strength because as shown on the scans above, his strength was still increasing whereas In Betweener was near his max of generated power. Take that as you will.
Originally posted by carver9
I don't know what Hulk is. In order for me to get a grasp on how powerful/strong he is compared to the most powerful beings in the Universe, he would have to be put into a confrontational situation against said beings. This has never happened so I can't answer your question. With that said, I don't know if Hulk is the strongest being in the universe.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Nice. So in ALL of these threads, when they involve cross company fights, you obviously stay out of them, right, because until the two characters actually have a confrontation, you cannot possibly answer the question, who would win, Hulk or (random DC character).I have never seen Usain Bolt race a Ferrari over 400m. Until I see them race, I cannot tell you who is faster.
I have never seen a 7 year old double amputee with cancer fight Tyson in his prime. Until I see them in the ring, I cannot tell you if Tyson would win or not.
This is most liberating. I can see why you're so chilled all the time.
Originally posted by carver9
That applies to Flash as well along with the ftless Death you keep bringing up that Flash outraced.
Which one, Black Racer? The one who comes to collect New Gods when they die?
Name the guys who you think are faster than Flash when he is at his best, then. That might help you think.
I mean, I've already named people I think are stronger. A whole race of them.
