Originally posted by Time Immemorial
They gave a pretty good explanation as for there actions by trying to protect there daughters as well as there son at the same time, so I can understand why they were being pulled in two different directions. I think this can be chalked up too, no mater how good you want to be, every family has secrets.
I'm talking about currently though, on their show they try to portray a certain image.
If you want to talk about protecting your daughters and your son, wouldn't the best thing be to NOT do a reality show? Now, because of this show, EVERYONE knows what this guy did.
Originally posted by Surtur
I'm talking about currently though, on their show they try to portray a certain image.If you want to talk about protecting your daughters and your son, wouldn't the best thing be to NOT do a reality show? Now, because of this show, EVERYONE knows what this guy did. Prior to this it was probably just the family.
I was aware that TLC knew about this a long time ago, and did a good job covering it up for the show.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
since when are 14 year olds toddlers who dont know any better? what are we smoking up in here?
Haha, you remember this 14 year old?
Raped and killed his teacher by slitting her throat and dumped her body in the woods.
Kids are out of control. I blame bad parenting😂
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
I was aware that TLC knew about this a long time ago, and did a good job covering it up for the show.
But this isn't just about TLC. Even if the network did know, the public did not. Being on the show put the info at risk of being leaked to millions of people. If they wanted to protect their kids instead of doing a reality show and informing the network what the kid did..maybe just not do one? Since obviously TLC didn't do a good enough job.
They were already under scrutiny just for the sheer fact they have so many damn kids, did they really think this wouldn't eventually come out?
Originally posted by Time ImmemorialMaybe I'm confused, but were the parents somehow forced to televise their family?
Yea if it continued past 14, that's a big deal and he had been told "no" thats a big deal. Whatever happened though, seems this would have been better left to the family and authorities rather then media.
Because it seems to me the parents are the ones who opened their disgusting antics to the media by agreeing to do the show.
Originally posted by Surtur
But this isn't just about TLC. Even if the network did know, the public did not. Being on the show put the info at risk of being leaked to millions of people. If they wanted to protect their kids instead of doing a reality show and informing the network what the kid did..maybe just not do one? Since obviously TLC didn't do a good enough job.They were already under scrutiny just for the sheer fact they have so many damn kids, did they really think this wouldn't eventually come out?
Yea, what's even more to think about is, if they knew, did they know before or after they started the show.
And also, if they did know, why didn't they want to tell the public about it, so that there was not any skeletons.
People always like redemption stories.
Originally posted by Robtard
Maybe I'm confused, but were the parents somehow forced to televise their family?Because it seems to me the parents are the ones who opened their disgusting antics to the media by agreeing to do the show.
I don't think anyone is forced but remember Jake and Kate plus 8? The people eat this stuff up.
Also wait hold on..we need to back up. Is it actually true TLC knew about this? Since I could of sworn they were condemning the actions once the news came out and also cancelled the show because of it. If they knew, it means they didn't really a give a damn and only cancelled it due to public backlash as opposed to the network having any issues with it.
I dunno, that sounds like something that could ruin the entire network.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
It didn't go to court because of reasons I mentioned above, he was 14, and the law there dictates how the parents handle it. I doubt the parents had any clue the sherriff they sent him too had a sick problem of child pornography. Unless you think they willfully sent there child who was having a touching problem to a known child pornographer. Anyways I know he spoke out against LBGT community about child touching, and that makes him a hypocrite, however, everyone is hypocrites at some point in there life, and something he did at 14, is he held accountable for it for the rest of his life?
No, it did not go to court, because Jim Bob was running for public office when the first victim came forward, and he did not want it to be a matter of public record during his campaign, so he and Michelle waited until the campaign was over and three more victims came forward before they decided to act.
It did not go to court, because Jim Bob and Michelle did not report the abuse to a neutral authority. They unofficially reported it to a family friend who is in law enforcement and would not officially charge their son with a crime.
It did not go to court, because Jim Bob and Michelle misrepresented the abuse to the person to whom they reported it. They reported that Josh had touched the breasts and vagina of his sister over her clothing while she slept on one occasion. At that time, they knew he had molested four of his sisters, up to and including fondling them under their clothing and putting his fingers inside them.
It did not go to court, because when the police launched an official investigation, they refused to cooperate with authorities, hiring a lawyer, and refusing to speak to police.
Then the statute of limitations expired.
They obstructed justice from beginning to end.
I believe they knew the officer struggled with pornography, but did not necessarily know the nature of the pornography in which he was involved.
Moreover, why should he not be accountable for something he did at 14? Fourteen-year-olds can be tried as adults and sentenced to life in prison for some crimes in this country.
Originally posted by Surtur
Also wait hold on..we need to back up. Is it actually true TLC knew about this? Since I could of sworn they were condemning the actions once the news came out and also cancelled the show because of it. If they knew, it means they didn't really a give a damn and only cancelled it due to public backlash as opposed to the network having any issues with it.I dunno, that sounds like something that could ruin the entire network.
Its been speculation, however after how many years of filming, its suspected that this came up. And if Oprah knew, TLC must have known.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
No, it did not go to court, because Jim Bob was running for public office when the first victim came forward, and he did not want it to be a matter of public record during his campaign, so he and Michelle waited until the campaign was over and three more victims came forward before they decided to act.It did not go to court, because Jim Bob and Michelle did not report the abuse to a neutral authority. They unofficially reported it to a family friend who is in law enforcement and would not officially charge their son with a crime.
It did not go to court, because Jim Bob and Michelle misrepresented the abuse to the person to whom they reported it. They reported that Josh had touched the breasts and vagina of his sister over her clothing while she slept on one occasion. At that time, they knew he had molested four of his sisters, up to and including fondling them under their clothing and putting his fingers inside them.
It did not go to court, because when the police launched an official investigation, they refused to cooperate with authorities, hiring a lawyer, and refusing to speak to police.
Then the statute of limitations expired.
They obstructed justice from beginning to end.
I believe they knew the officer struggled with pornography, but did not necessarily know the nature of the pornography in which he was involved.
Moreover, why should he not be accountable for something he did at 14? Fourteen-year-olds can be tried as adults and sentenced to life in prison for some crimes in this country.
Yes 14 year olds should be, however it on a case by case basis I believe. Can you be prosecuted if the offended party refuses to press charges?
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Yes 14 year olds should be, however it on a case by case basis I believe. Can you be prosecuted if the offended party refuses to press charges?
Yes, if it is a criminal charge it is not the victim that decides but the public interest.
It may be hard however to prosecute if the victim refuses to cooperate.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Yes, if it is a criminal charge it is not the victim that decides but the public interest.It may be hard however to prosecute if the victim refuses to cooperate.
Considering this is Arkansas, I find it hard to believe this would have been in the public interest. Considering the issues with the police as well.😆
edit: yea from what the daughters said, they didn't even know they were ever touched. The guy was a silent toucher apparently.
Look at this crap, there is an actual movement for pedophiles and legalizing it. How is this even allowed to exist?? It should be like the Natzi party..disallowed!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Man/Boy_Love_Association
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
"A NAMBLA logo. The capital M and lowercase b symbolize a man and a boy."😂
That's just too much.
If you look up the movement there is a term called "Pederasty" its apparent sicko's in the world actually come up with names for this sick offense stuff.
So if your a male and you want a relationship with a boy, are you gay and a pedophile?
Everyone in that organization should be arrested, tried, and hung.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Then some more touching happened and they sent him to counseling.
The facility Josh Duggar attended for treatment after molesting young girls has been identified as Basic Life Principles Training Center.
The center offers faith-based healing and has come under fire by some who have attended their programs.
It was founded by Duggar family friend Bill Gothard in 1961 and has locations across the country, with Josh going to the Little Rock location.
Gothard stepped down in 2014 after over 30 young women and teenagers came forward and accused him of sexual harassment.
He was never charged for any of these offenses.