Darth Vader vs Mace windu

Originally posted by SunRazer
Mace takes sabers, Vader takes Force, and either could feasibly win overall.

Originally posted by AncientPower
If he can stifle a Palpatine Force Push he can do better against Vader's, Vader isn't Force stomping Windu at all. Mace Windu is an extremely powerful Jedi Master above anyone bar Yoda and Dooku in the Order. Stop treating him like Trebor because even my IQ is suffering reading this stuff.

Yeah, I must agree. Windu has beeen underestiamted lately imho.

The other side of that is, Anakin Skywalker pwned Dooku, and Dooku can outfence Mace.

If A is greater then B, and B is greater then C...

Also relevant, ROTJ Vader would defeat his younger self.

ROTJ Vader wouldn't outduel his younger self, though.

Originally posted by Angelalex242
The other side of that is, Anakin Skywalker pwned Dooku, and Dooku can outfence Mace.

If A is greater then B, and B is greater then C...

Also relevant, ROTJ Vader would defeat his younger self.

That wouldn't work against Mace, so in that respect your ABC logic is flawed.

ABC logic typically does.

Kenobi > Anakin > Dooku > Kenobi

Originally posted by SunRazer

Not sure I'm convinced it was a maximum-effort or even high-effort showing from Palpatine, though, since I am one of those who believe Palpatine basically faked the duel.

I'm kinda with you on that one.

Originally posted by Stigma
Kenobi > Anakin > Dooku > Kenobi

LOL basically

Originally posted by Stigma
Kenobi > Anakin > Dooku > Kenobi

Originally posted by Nargaroth
Someone like Vader, who atomized Lyleks and briefly chocked Galen Marek, would have no problem ragdolling Mace with the Force.

No, Mace was slammed with the Force by Palpatine, but was able to recover before Sidious could cut him down. Vader isn't ragdolling shit.

Originally posted by SunRazer
In the novel, Palpatine pushes Mace but Mace uses telekinesis of his own to adjust the path of his movement so that he slammed into a stanchion instead of flying outside the window.

Not sure I'm convinced it was a maximum-effort or even high-effort showing from Palpatine, though, since I am one of those who believe Palpatine basically faked the duel.

Palpatine didn't fake the duel, but he wasn't giving it his all as he was only using one saber. Two saber Palpatine would likely defeat Mace in that scenario. Still think he'd lose to Yoda though.

It's pretty clear in the novel that he threw the duel, Ultimate Star Wars suggests this also.

Anyway you still haven't prove Jar'Kai is Palps preferred style...

Originally posted by Beniboybling
It's pretty clear in the novel that he threw the duel, Ultimate Star Wars suggests this also.

Anyway you still haven't prove Jar'Kai is Palps preferred style...

No the novel makes it clear he threw the fight when Palpatine is blasting Mace with lightning. The duel not so much.
http://www.starwars.com/tv-shows/clone-wars/the-lawless-trivia-gallery

"That Darth Sidious fights with two lightsabers is evident in Episode III-he has two lightsabers in ROTS though he never has the opportunity to wield them simultaneously since he loses one against Mace Windu before dueling Yoda."

in the movie their is no real answer to whether he threw the fight or not as Luca not Disney haven't given any official answer. However whether he was going all out or not, the novel states the two could have fought on forever until someone lost all of their stamina. This could also translate to the movies as Sidious was blue to go toe to toe with yoda someone who is above windu. Also in the movie Sidious had different times he could have taken windu out with his blade or his force abilities yet didn't and those moments were painfully obvious.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
No the novel makes it clear he threw the fight when Palpatine is blasting Mace with lightning. The duel not so much.
http://www.starwars.com/tv-shows/clone-wars/the-lawless-trivia-gallery

"That Darth Sidious fights with two lightsabers is evident in Episode III-he has two lightsabers in ROTS though he never has the opportunity to wield them simultaneously since he loses one against Mace Windu before dueling Yoda."

Why does it matter again if he uses one or two? He's a master of all seven forms so he can work with either. That's why he was able to go toe to toe with yoda. He can work with two sabers, or he can work with one.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
No the novel makes it clear he threw the fight when Palpatine is blasting Mace with lightning. The duel not so much.
http://www.starwars.com/tv-shows/clone-wars/the-lawless-trivia-gallery

Originally posted by Lord Stark
"That Darth Sidious fights with two lightsabers is evident in Episode III-he has two lightsabers in ROTS though he never has the opportunity to wield them simultaneously since he loses one against Mace Windu before dueling Yoda."

Fear or no, they had achieved impasse beforehand.

Indeed they were stuck at an impasse, so Windu being a sneaky bastard used the window ledge so Sidious would have to redirect some of his Force power to stop himself flying out of the window, with his speed decreased Windu disarmed him and won the duel.

Windu outsmarted Sidious in combat, unfortunately for Windu he was never going to last in a Force contest with Sidious even with his blade so he himself was outsmarted directly afterwards.

Windu legit beat Sidious in a lightsabers only contest by using his environment.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Indeed they were stuck at an impasse, so Windu being a sneaky bastard used the window ledge so Sidious would have to redirect some of his Force power to stop himself flying out of the window, with his speed decreased Windu disarmed him and won the duel.

Windu outsmarted Sidious in combat, unfortunately for Windu he was never going to last in a Force contest with Sidious even with his blade so he himself was outsmarted directly afterwards.

Windu legit beat Sidious in a lightsabers only contest by using his environment.

As a duelist Mace is top 5 tbh.