Super Saiyan Mystic Gohan vs God Goku

Originally posted by Galan007
Well, we know he was many, many times more powerful than Goku during the Buu saga. So like I said, even if you cut Shin Gohan's power in half due to lack of training or w/e, he'd still be around Super Buu-level... Which still would make him several times more powerful than SSJ3 Goku as of the Buu saga.

Goku bridging that significant of a gap by the time of BoG is highly improbable considering he was still restricted to SSJ1-SSJ3. Their showings against Beerus certainly do not constitute a proper gauge, either--SSJ3 Goku was tooled with a finger-flick and casual hand-chop, ffs.

Anyway I'm asking if there was any proof of what sort of amp the SS God gave you, not what Gohan contrasted to compared to Goku. IE that would give us an idea of where he places. Even from normal base.

On Gohan, all his potential was released at once implying a peak. If he hits this peak and stops training that leaves room for Goku who was training for years to reach that level. As we saw the amount of time didn't really matter as the power creep was enormous when it needed to be. Goku got like thousands of times stronger for instance from the start of DBZ when he was what, 24 to start? Plus Frieza getting a movie after SSG appears kind of diminishes time...

And Vegeta completely eclipsing everyone else in SS2 form defeats the theory that Gohan is unsurpassable anyway. I'm assuming Goku was around the same as Gohan because what took them out seemed to be around the same effort (chop to the neck faster than Goku could turn around in a nerve attack vs headbashing and a kick). Even if he wasn't, his comparison to the majestic Vegeta gets him more rep than Gohan acquired.

Basically, Buu saga power levels got shit on is what I'm saying. Just like what happened in every other saga.

It'd be more accurate if there was an actual statement of the muliplier SSG uses. Maybe Gohan wins, but that would tell us for sure or more accurately at least.

Vegeta Vegeta Vegeta if you catch my drift.

mystic gohan cant go ssj he full potential was brought out by elder kai. mystic gohan is the stringest he will ever be he wont get wany stronger even if he did go super

The thread is a what if. Carver knows the Mystic Gohan is at full power he's just spit balling an idea of using SSJ to multiply it further.

Yeah, I just thought about that.

I think it was implied or said by Kai if I'm not mistaken that Shin Gohan is Gohan's peak/maximum power level. Going SSJ would be useless and not needed, since he would still be at the same power level.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
You're in a thread made purely on the basis of an assumption and you can't get past seeing Goku getting to that level in a couple of years of training? 😬

Anyway I'm asking if there was any proof of what sort of amp the SS God gave you, not what Gohan contrasted to compared to Goku. IE that would give us an idea of where he places. Even from normal base.

On Gohan, all his potential was released at once implying a peak. If he hits this peak and stops training that leaves room for Goku who was training for years to reach that level. As we saw the amount of time didn't really matter as the power creep was enormous when it needed to be. Goku got like thousands of times stronger for instance from the start of DBZ when he was what, 24 to start? Plus Frieza getting a movie after SSG appears kind of diminishes time...

And Vegeta completely eclipsing everyone else in SS2 form defeats the theory that Gohan is unsurpassable anyway. I'm assuming Goku was around the same as Gohan because what took them out seemed to be around the same effort (chop to the neck faster than Goku could turn around in a nerve attack vs headbashing and a kick). Even if he wasn't, his comparison to the majestic Vegeta gets him more rep than Gohan acquired.

Basically, Buu saga power levels got shit on is what I'm saying. Just like what happened in every other saga.

It'd be more accurate if there was an actual statement of the muliplier SSG uses. Maybe Gohan wins, but that would tell us for sure or more accurately at least.

Vegeta Vegeta Vegeta if you catch my drift.

Just some food for thought.

Didnt they say at the end of the film that Vegeta "surpassed even goku" in that moment. Makes it seem like Goku was the top of the totem pole powerwise at the time of BOG.

Which makes sense why Goku was so cocky when going against Beerus

Originally posted by bbrem123
Just some food for thought.

Didnt they say at the end of the film that Vegeta "surpassed even goku" in that moment. Makes it seem like Goku was the top of the totem pole powerwise at the time of BOG.

Which makes sense why Goku was so cocky when going against Beerus

In any case, Gohan probably would win here, but I'm curious if an actual multiplier was mentioned with God form.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
That's mostly what I was thinking about.

In any case, Gohan probably would win here, but I'm curious if an actual multiplier was mentioned with God form.

Someone said it was stated somewhere that the multiplier was what SSJ1 was for base but for SSJ3. So 50x SSJ3. Tho, how accurate that is, I'm not sure

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
You're in a thread made purely on the basis of an assumption and you can't get past seeing Goku getting to that level in a couple of years of training? 😬

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
And Vegeta completely eclipsing everyone else in SS2 form defeats the theory that Gohan is unsurpassable anyway.

Cling to that showing if you'd like, but it doesn't pertain to Shin Gohan vs. SSJ3 Goku in the slightest. ABC logic doesn't work with Saiyans--they are not all created equal.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
It'd be more accurate if there was an actual statement of the muliplier SSG uses.