Loki vs. Khan

Originally posted by quanchi112
You made the claim and then failed to back it up.

Hulk trashing Loki isn't made up, it actually happened, along with taking the Bifrost Explosion

You never had an argument to begin with

I never said Kirk beats cap or Hawkeye I said he's no slouch with a phaser.

Meaningless unless you show me any kind of feats for their weapons or for them, until then, it's not all that impressive

Khan guns him down.

Even though Loki is faster, and can just troll Khan all day with illusions, making him hit things that are not there, and mind control him to name a few things, Khan is vastly physically outclassed on top of his opponent's vastly superior versatility

Yeah but you know in the light of all that, Khan wins because his opponent is just going to sit there like a Forrest Gump wannabe and let a much physically inferior foe with a weapon that can't hurt him to begin with get free shots at him while using none of his powers that Khan has no valid counter to to begin with because, potatoes I guess

The only way Khan wins this is if you script the match in such a fashion that Loki walks up to Khan, hands him his spear and tells him "Go ahead, stab me in the face." But apparently that's what Quan thinks is going to happen. I am almost tempted to ask Imp to get in here and force Quan to start backing up his claims that the gun can hurt Loki with actual proof, when he has tanked much greater damage on screen. Be hilarious to see the kind of nonsense he comes up with. Four pages now and he still hasn't provided a single feat that proves the boolean gun can harm Loki.

So, how powerful are Romulans?

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Hulk trashing Loki isn't made up, it actually happened, along with taking the Bifrost Explosion

You never had an argument to begin with

Meaningless unless you show me any kind of feats for their weapons or for them, until then, it's not all that impressive

Even though Loki is faster, and can just troll Khan all day with illusions, making him hit things that are not there, and mind control him to name a few things, Khan is vastly physically outclassed on top of his opponent's vastly superior versatility

Yeah but you know in the light of all that, Khan wins because his opponent is just going to sit there like a Forrest Gump wannabe and let a much physically inferior foe with a weapon that can't hurt him to begin with get free shots at him while using none of his powers that Khan has no valid counter to to begin with because, potatoes I guess

It isn't meaningless it shows how formidable they are but they were outmatched against the Klingons until Khan decimated them.

Loki didn't even try to get out of the way of the Hulk and arrogantly took a beat down. Khan shoots the overconfident god.

It takes down patrol ships with a single blast.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He didn't significantly hurt Loki but he did threads him around. There was nothing indicating he used any of the power he used to stop the space whale.

That just says more about how durable Loki is then

"Just because he tossed him around, doesn't mean he used the same amount of power on Loki, even though he doesn't hold back physically

You're so awful at this quanchi 👆

It isn't meaningless it shows how formidable they are but they were outmatched against the Klingons until Khan decimated them.

Unless you can give any kind of feat for Romulans, then you have nothing

Loki didn't even try to get out of the way of the Hulk and arrogantly took a beat down. Khan shoots the overconfident god.

>implies losing to Hulk is a low end showing

It takes down patrol ships with a single blast.

So maybe on par with one of Hawkeye's arrows then?

Originally posted by StealthRanger
That just says more about how durable Loki is then

"Just because he tossed him around, doesn't mean he used the same amount of power on Loki, even though he doesn't hold back physically

You're so awful at this quanchi 👆

Unless you can give any kind of feat for Romulans, then you have nothing

>implies losing to Hulk is a low end showing

So maybe on par with one of Hawkeye's arrows then?

I have a basis for a comparison. Watch the Romulans fight sulu and Kirk. Kirk with a phaser is a much bigger deal.

There are no lows or highs only facts.

Boolean gun is greater and faster.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He survived being slammed into the ground. No biggie. You made the claim so prove it.

"He just slammed him into the ground, so what, that doesn't mean he hit him anywhere near as hard as he would anything else like the Leviathan" again

You're a joke 😂

I have a basis for a comparison. Watch the Romulans fight sulu and Kirk. Kirk with a phaser is a much bigger deal.

"I have no feats for them"

Yeah that's what I thought

There are no lows or highs only facts.

And you're an idiot. Full stop

Boolean gun is greater and faster.

Hawkeye's arrow crippled a fricking flying aircraft carrier so, no

Originally posted by StealthRanger
"He just slammed him into the ground, so what, that doesn't mean he hit him anywhere near as hard as he would anything else like the Leviathan" again

You're a joke 😂

"I have no feats for them"

Yeah that's what I thought

And you're an idiot. Full stop

Hawkeye's arrow crippled a fricking flying aircraft carrier so, no

Watch the film but as I said we have a basis of comparison.

Boolean gun is faster and more powerful based off it downing Klingon patrol ships.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Flamijg isn't going to cover up your piss poor debating skills. You cant back the claim up.

And stonewalling and grasping at straws isn't a valid counterargument

And neither is shifting the goalposts

Watch the film but as I said we have a basis of comparison.

Burden of proof is a thing

Boolean gun is faster and more powerful based off it downing Klingon patrol ships.

Well if the Klingon ships are as shit as the Klingons themselves, I have my doubts as to the Boolean gun being powerful as Hawkeye's arrows 😂

Originally posted by StealthRanger
And stonewalling and grasping at straws isn't a valid counterargument

And neither is shifting the goalposts

Burden of proof is a thing

Well if the Klingon ships are as shit as the Klingons themselves, I have my doubts as to the Boolean gun being powerful as Hawkeye's arrows 😂

You don't ever back your claims so ironic.

Klingons weren't shit they were shit by way of comparison to Khan. Context, dipshit.

😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
You made the claim. You don't get to use one feat and apply it to every hulk interaction just because you're a moron.

Great argument

"Durr I'll assume the feat that happened only applies to that one moment and only that and say everything else must have only been street level!"

You need to learn not every single display has to have super flashy collateral damage. j/cc is a far more effective method, I thought we went over this in another thread, else by your logic Khan's gun isn't that powerful because shooting a Klingon ship only happened once, or Voldemort's energy beams aren't that powerful because levelling Hogwarts shield only happened once

You don't ever back your claims so ironic.

Except I have, no need to be jelly

Klingons weren't shit they were shit by way of comparison to Khan. Context, dipshit.

😂

"Durr let's just charge into him like idiots not bothering with proper tactics and use of the environment to our advantage, and we need several of us to beat up a middle aged man!"

Yep, Loki would sure as hell be shitting himself at that kind of force 🙄

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Great argument

"Durr I'll assume the feat that happened only applies to that one moment and only that and say everything else must have only been street level!"

You need to learn not every single display has to have super flashy collateral damage. j/cc is a far more effective method, I thought we went over this in another thread, else by your logic Khan's gun isn't that powerful because shooting a Klingon ship only happened once, or Voldemort's energy beams aren't that powerful because levelling Hogwarts shield only happened once

Except I have, no need to be jelly

"Durr let's just charge into him like idiots not bothering with proper tactics and use of the environment to our advantage, and we need several of us to beat up a middle aged man!"

Yep, Loki would sure as hell be shitting himself at that kind of force 🙄

No, you never do.

Khan was t some run of the mill middle aged man. Khan was a superhuman who is physically beyond any human in their physical peaks of this planet. He crushed them because he's superb.

Khan wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
[B]You made the claim. If you can't prove it then it's a baseless claim. That's how debating works so prove it, troll.

I made the claim that Loki survived Hulk wailing on him, that happened, your shifting the goalposts won't work, gg

No, you never do.

Says mr "repeat shot down arguments and ignore burden of proof that got me owned at SpaceBattles several times"

Khan was t some run of the mill middle aged man. Khan was a superhuman who is physically beyond any human in their physical peaks of this planet. He crushed them because he's superb.

I was talking about Spock you dumb shit

You have nothing from Klingons, Romulans, anything, that suggests Loki couldn't manhandle them with no effort

Originally posted by StealthRanger
I made the claim that Loki survived Hulk wailing on him, that happened, your shifting the goalposts won't work, gg

Says mr "repeat shot down arguments and ignore burden of proof that got me owned at SpaceBattles several times"

I was talking about Spock you dumb shit

You have nothing from Klingons, Romulans, anything, that suggests Loki couldn't manhandle them with no effort

False. You're upset.

I never said Loki couldn't beat a Klingon or a Romulan. Are you illiterate ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Loki did survive being thrown around but saying he used the same power as on the space whale needs to be prove.

Unless we have a reason to believe otherwise, we don't assume otherwise. Occam's Razor is your friend 👆

False. You're upset.

"Kicked out of Sauron vs Voldemort for not backing your claims and repeating shot down arguments"

I never said Loki couldn't beat a Klingon or a Romulan. Are you illiterate ?

Then why the **** do you bring them up as if it's worth of mention?

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Unless we have a reason to believe otherwise, we don't assume otherwise. Occam's Razor is your friend 👆

"Kicked out of Sauron vs Voldemort for not backing your claims and repeating shot down arguments"

Then why the **** do you bring them up as if it's worth of mention?

I just found out I can't ignore book feats there so a flawed board that restricts freedoms.

You don't comprehend very well.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That isn't logical at all. He tossed him around but if you feel that then back it up.

Aaaaand another red herring

I just found out I can't ignore book feats there so a flawed board that restricts freedoms.

Too bad

You don't comprehend very well.

So, tell me more about how beating Kirk who beat Romulans is worth of mention

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Aaaaand another red herring

Too bad

So, tell me more about how beating Kirk who beat Romulans is worth of mention

Shitty board.

It shows that the Klingons weren't shit because a few were enough to overwhelm Kirk whereas that wasn't the case with the Romulans.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it's you being unable to back your claim.

Aww, look gents, a "no u" retort

It shows that the Klingons weren't shit because a few were enough to overwhelm Kirk whereas that wasn't the case with the Romulans.

Unless you name actual feats for them, their weapons, whatever, none of these mean a damn thing

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Aww, look gents, a "no u" retort

Unless you name actual feats for them, their weapons, whatever, none of these mean a damn thing

I gave a basis for comparison. I'm correct. Klingons>Kirk and Spock armed.

Armed Kirk, Spock > Romulans.