Loki vs. Khan

Originally posted by quanchi112
You Flamijg isn't changing the fact you're unable to back your claim.

I have backed my claim, quanchi-kun, you simply shifted the goal post

But yeah, a guy who's always pissed off and has no concept of holding back is going to use much less power against the main bad guy for no ****ing reason, totally, you're a ****ing idiot

I gave a basis for comparison. I'm correct. Klingons>Kirk and Spock armed.

You gave no feats, just said "it's impressive just because"

Can they say, move at mach speed and punch boulders apart, for example?

Armed Kirk, Spock > Romulans.

If only Romulans had some kind of impressive feat

Originally posted by StealthRanger
I have backed my claim, quanchi-kun, you simply shifted the goal post

But yeah, a guy who's always pissed off and has no concept of holding back is going to use much less power against the main bad guy for no ****ing reason, totally, you're a ****ing idiot

You gave no feats, just said "it's impressive just because"

Can they say, move at mach speed and punch boulders apart, for example?

If only Romulans had some kind of impressive feat

I said it was impressive based off the comparisons.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He just thrashed him around. If you believe that Hulk did was his absolute best you should be murdered immediately for stupidity.

So a guy who doesn't hold back not going at his absolute best, ahahahaha, you're a pissa quanchi

Also curious to know why being thrashed around even makes a slight difference, it would only matter if Hulk was holding back or something, which he didn't

I said it was impressive based off the comparisons.

And meaningless unless you give feats, love how you mention shit like beating mooks here, I mean, this isn't Hyperion Cantos we're talking about

Originally posted by StealthRanger
So a guy who doesn't hold back not going at his absolute best, ahahahaha, you're a pissa quanchi

Also curious to know why being thrashed around even makes a slight difference, it would only matter if Hulk was holding back or something, which he didn't

And meaningless unless you give feats, love how you mention shit like beating mooks here, I mean, this isn't Hyperion Cantos we're talking about

He wasn't trying to kill him and also walked away joking.

Already made the basis for comparison just feats is a horrendous way to debate, boy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk holds back. Quite often.

Wrong

He wasn't trying to kill him and also walked away joking.

Based on?

Already made the basis for comparison just feats is a horrendous way to debate, boy.

Too bad it meant shit

Only feats matter, and as far as feats go, Loki stomps the yard

It's funny how Quan tries to downplay the importance of onscreen feats when he knows he has none to back his claims. Also, how about proving that Hulk "holds back quite often"? And don't just spew your nonsense opinion as though it is the word of God (which is your usual style). Provide onscreen feats and references that prove that Hulk often holds back his strength during combat. You just made the claim. Back it up or concede that you are a liar.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Wrong

Based on?

Too bad it meant shit

Only feats matter, and as far as feats go, Loki stomps the yard

Him joking and walking away while Loki looked scared but not hurt in any significant way.

Completely absurd. Ignoring other aspects of the equation is biased town.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
It's funny how Quan tries to downplay the importance of onscreen feats when he knows he has none to back his claims. Also, how about proving that Hulk "holds back quite often"? And don't just spew your nonsense opinion as though it is the word of God (which is your usual style). Provide onscreen feats and references that prove that Hulk often holds back his strength during combat. You just made the claim. Back it up or concede that you are a liar.

Loki demolishes Khan. Quan has been humiliated enough in these khan vs debates as it is with Kahn not winning any. If he can't hope to win agaisnt Severus Snape than what hope does he have against a godlike figure who was able to take down captain America.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Loki demolishes Khan. Quan has been humiliated enough in these khan vs debates as it is with Kahn not winning any. If he can't hope to win agaisnt Severus Snape than what hope does he have against a godlike figure who was able to take down captain America.

Everyone knows that Loki wins(even thedkeffect) he is just trolling because that is the only thing that gives his life meaning.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am not downplaying feats I am saying they aren't the only thing we take into account, hill jack. Hulk hit Thor while battling the chitauri. Was he trying to kill him ? Common sense shouldn't be ignored just because you're a shitty debater. Loki was seen alive and at Hulk's mercy and we see him joke and walk away. 🙂

You are downplaying AND ignoring feats, on top of the BS you post. Case in point you trying to downplay some of Loki's durability feats, and totally ignoring and not addressing others. You're so desperate that you try to use Thor (who isn't even in the thread) not being hit by bullets onscreen (meaning we have no idea how much of an effect they would have had, if any) as proof to claim the Boolean gun will kill Loki. And it is ironic, considering how I have seen you spew about how only feats matter, whenever the argument suits you. Hell, you are downplaying Loki in general, by acting like someone who is physically superior to Khan, has a more versatile weapon than Khan, and has exotic abilities Khan has no experience with or way of countering, is going to stand there and let Khan just try to kill him. And you have also yet to post proof that Khan's gun can hurt him.

And LOL, you use Hulk punching his own teammate and returning to combat after dropping Loki as "proof" that he "often holds back" in combat? You are reaching so hard it is ridiculous. I asked you to post proof to back your claim that he "often holds back" during combat. Punching a teammate for comedic effect, and defeating Loki (and being the only being ever to genuinely visibly injure him onscreen) does not come close to even remotely backing up this claim.

But you are par for the course in that post. Dance around without actually providing any valid proof, accompanied by multiple poor insults. So predictable.

What does hill jack mean?

NVM

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hilljack

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Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
You are downplaying AND ignoring feats, on top of the BS you post. Case in point you trying to downplay some of Loki's durability feats, and totally ignoring and not addressing others. You're so desperate that you try to use Thor (who isn't even in the thread) [B]not being hit by bullets onscreen (meaning we have no idea how much of an effect they would have had, if any) as proof to claim the Boolean gun will kill Loki. And it is ironic, considering how I have seen you spew about how only feats matter, whenever the argument suits you. Hell, you are downplaying Loki in general, by acting like someone who is physically superior to Khan, has a more versatile weapon than Khan, and has exotic abilities Khan has no experience with or way of countering, is going to stand there and let Khan just try to kill him. And you have also yet to post proof that Khan's gun can hurt him.

And LOL, you use Hulk punching his own teammate and returning to combat after dropping Loki as "proof" that he "often holds back" in combat? You are reaching so hard it is ridiculous. I asked you to post proof to back your claim that he "often holds back" during combat. Punching a teammate for comedic effect, and defeating Loki (and being the only being ever to genuinely visibly injure him onscreen) does not come close to even remotely backing up this claim.

But you are par for the course in that post. Dance around without actually providing any valid proof, accompanied by multiple poor insults. So predictable. [/B]

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am not saying Loki isn't durable at all. I am saying him dying to the Boolean gun is nothing to be ashamed of. Feats matter but they don't tell the whole story. You're so emotionally wrapped up in opposing me you aren't thinking straight. I just proved he holds back. He didn't try to kill Thor and walked away from Loki who didn't sustain any serious injuries. You can deny these obvious truths in your quest to oppose your superior (me). You're cheating yourself. Khan wins. Let the thread die.

So where was he holding back against the army or Abomination in The Incredible Hulk? Where was he holding back when he was rampaging through the helicarrier (and 2 seconds away from splattering Black Widow) or smashing through Chitauri and Leviathans during Avengers (and you still have no proof that he curbed his strength when he was actively slamming Loki into the ground either)? Where was he holding back during the raid on the Hydra base and the battle with the Ultron army in Avengers 2? Or his battle with Iron Man in the Veronica suit? Those are valid instances where he was actively engaging enemies who posed an immediate threat to him. If he "holds back" as you claim (and apparently "often" to boot), there would be evidence of it throughout the multiple actual battles I just listed. Instead you try to use him punching Thor, as a joke, as proof. But I don't even really care if you reply to this, because I know it will be another epic dodge. You have nothing else you can do.

So to sum up:

No feats proving the gun can hurt Loki? Check.

No feats proving the Hulk "often holds back" during actual combat? Check.

Dancing around and ignoring points (like Loki's stat advantage, more experience, illusions, mind control etc.) while saying "Khan wins"? Check.

Attempt at an insult with your "emotional" nonsense? Check.

Again, so predictable. I asked you to post valid feats and address the other points made by me and the rest of the posters, or I would take it as a concession. You have not done anything of the sort. So concession accepted. Loki wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Right.

Show one instance where he holds back, go on

Him joking and walking away while Loki looked scared but not hurt in any significant way.

Joking? He made a patronising statement to Loki after he tried to use his "god" status as superiority, no actual proof he held back against Loki that you can give. Nice job at reaching though

Completely absurd. Ignoring other aspects of the equation is biased town.

Nice argument for why beating shitty characters is relevant in an argument with massively superhuman characters, then again I'm talking to the same guy who thinks Uruk-Hai are a threat to ****ing Kratos

"Nice argument for why beating shitty characters is relevant in an argument with massively superhuman characters, then again I'm talking to the same guy who thinks Uruk-Hai are a threat to ****ing Kratos
"

the literal ****?

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Nice argument for why beating shitty characters is relevant in an argument with massively superhuman characters, then again I'm talking to the same guy who thinks Uruk-Hai are a threat to ****ing Kratos

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Originally posted by StealthRanger
But yeah, a guy who's always pissed off and has no concept of holding back is going to use much less power against the main bad guy for no ****ing reason, totally, you're a ****ing idiot

On the other hand the guy who is "always pissed and has no concept of holding back" sure held back from attacking any of the Avengers at the end of the movie.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
So where was he holding back against the army or Abomination in The Incredible Hulk? Where was he holding back when he was rampaging through the helicarrier (and 2 seconds away from splattering Black Widow) or smashing through Chitauri and Leviathans during Avengers (and you still have no proof that he curbed his strength when he was actively slamming Loki into the ground either)? Where was he holding back during the raid on the Hydra base and the battle with the Ultron army in Avengers 2? Or his battle with Iron Man in the Veronica suit? Those are valid instances where he was actively engaging [B]enemies who posed an immediate threat to him. If he "holds back" as you claim (and apparently "often" to boot), there would be evidence of it throughout the multiple actual battles I just listed. Instead you try to use him punching Thor, as a joke, as proof. But I don't even really care if you reply to this, because I know it will be another epic dodge. You have nothing else you can do.

So to sum up:

No feats proving the gun can hurt Loki? Check.

No feats proving the Hulk "often holds back" during actual combat? Check.

Dancing around and ignoring points (like Loki's stat advantage, more experience, illusions, mind control etc.) while saying "Khan wins"? Check.

Attempt at an insult with your "emotional" nonsense? Check.

Again, so predictable. I asked you to post valid feats and address the other points made by me and the rest of the posters, or I would take it as a concession. You have not done anything of the sort. So concession accepted. Loki wins. [/B]

Loki was left and wasn't even seriously damaged. 😂

Boolean gun>>>greater than hulk slamming Loki around. 😂

You're hideous and awful posturing is obviously proof why you dwell in a. Vault hidden from the world.