Originally posted by Stoic
What's wrong with using collateral damage? If a guy is shown punching a planet apart, it kind of tells us that he's pretty strong. If there is something wrong with it, then people have really got to stop using the bench pressing the Earth's weight for 7 days reference.
Carver usually argues against using collateral damage when it suits him, so I delight in taking every opportunity I can to point it out.
Originally posted by carver9
WWH would've beat Annihilus senseless.
And as the gap between Annihilus and WWH is so vast, and WWH stalemated/beat Sentry (who was a weaker version of D Sentry), surely it's a horrific spite stomp for D Sentry in this thread?
Of course, one could argue that WWH outright beat Sentry - 100% not denying that. It was a good close fight though, which leads me to suspect the gap between the two was pretty close. Certainly closer than WWH beating Sentry senseless.
IOW:
WWH = >Sentry>>>Annihilus>Hulk Anni beat
And since D Sentry >>Sentry, then:
D Sentry >>>>>Annihilus.
Originally posted by Stoic
Also, I have to remind you that when the Hulk first transforms that even Wonder Man would be above his present level. The Hulk grows in power. It isn't that he has no limit to the amount that he can grow in power, it's just that Annihilus isn't infinitely powerful himself. Let's all remember where Annihilus got his new found physical power from in the first place. Let's also remember that the Hulk had been anally probed, and prodded for God knows how long, so he may not have been in tip top. i mean if we're going to speculate about power levels.
I have to remind you that Hulk hadn't just transformed. He had already fought and defeated dozens of bug footsoldiers and Blastarr(sp?), and was made pretty angry (but not hurt) in the process.
Let us also remember that we didnt actually see Hulk being hurt during the experiments or hear it referenced in any way.
And no, Anni isn't infinitely powerful. We know exactly how powerful he is. He's as powerful as Thanos.
Originally posted by Dream Stuff
I have to remind you that Hulk hadn't just transformed. He had already fought and defeated dozens of bug footsoldiers and Blastarr(sp?), and was made pretty angry (but not hurt) in the process.Let us also remember that we didnt actually see Hulk being hurt during the experiments or hear it referenced in any way.
And no, Anni isn't infinitely powerful. We know exactly how powerful he is. He's as powerful as Thanos.
Hulk also got his power added to Annihilus moments before that. Just got out of a mechanic mind tampering and got his brain beat the hell out of by Thanos when Thanos invaded his brain. An argument can be made that Hulk wasn't at his best since moments before facing Annihilus, he got his powers tampered with (via adding his power to bug boy).
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And as the gap between Annihilus and WWH is so vast, and WWH stalemated/beat Sentry (who was a weaker version of D Sentry), surely it's a horrific spite stomp for D Sentry in this thread?Of course, one could argue that WWH outright beat Sentry - 100% not denying that. It was a good close fight though, which leads me to suspect the gap between the two was pretty close. Certainly closer than WWH beating Sentry senseless.
IOW:
WWH = >Sentry>>>Annihilus>Hulk Anni beat
And since D Sentry >>Sentry, then:
D Sentry >>>>>Annihilus.
Huh?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
If WWH would beat Annihilus senseless, than so would the Sentry from WWH.Now, D Sentry is > that Sentry, so he would absolutely stomp Annihilus.
Maybe I should've worded what I said better (even though the Sentry from WWH was monstrous), GREENSCAR would merk Annihilus. This version of Hulk ventured more into his powers.
Originally posted by carver9
Hulk also got his power added to Annihilus moments before that. Just got out of a mechanic mind tampering and got his brain beat the hell out of by Thanos when Thanos invaded his brain. An argument can be made that Hulk wasn't at his best since moments before facing Annihilus, he got his powers tampered with (via adding his power to bug boy).
You could make that argument, but it wouldn't be based on anything on panel. There is no evidence that Hulk was hurt in any way. There's no evidence that Annihilus replicating Hulk's power in anyway weakened Hulk. If the mental battle with Thanos wore him out, neither Hulk nor Banner made any comment to that effect and Hulk was still eager for a real foght as soon as he woke.
Originally posted by Stoic
Also, I have to remind you that when the Hulk first transforms that even Wonder Man would be above his present level. The Hulk grows in power. It isn't that he has no limit to the amount that he can grow in power, it's just that Annihilus isn't infinitely powerful himself. Let's all remember where Annihilus got his new found physical power from in the first place. Let's also remember that the Hulk had been anally probed, and prodded for God knows how long, so he may not have been in tip top. i mean if we're going to speculate about power levels.
So he grows in power, check.
The madder he gets, the stronger he gets, check.
He was anally probed, check.
He didn't get stronger, and you posit he was actually weakened.
Conclusion: Hulk liked the anal probes.
Originally posted by Dream Stuff
You could make that argument, but it wouldn't be based on anything on panel. There is no evidence that Hulk was hurt in any way. There's no evidence that Annihilus replicating Hulk's power in anyway weakened Hulk. If the mental battle with Thanos wore him out, neither Hulk nor Banner made any comment to that effect and Hulk was still eager for a real foght as soon as he woke.
Lol...Hulk doesn't showcase that he is weakened but everything I said did happen. He had a gizmo on while all of this happened to his body so like I said before, an argument can be made.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
An equal argument can be made that Hulk likes it up the pooper.
😂
Whatever. It was stated here that Hulk energy (energy FROM the Hulk) was being manipulated.
Lol...they were taking power from him and adding it to Annihilus.
Originally posted by carver9
Due to Annihilus fear based powers which wouldn't work on Greenscar since a similar attempt was tried and of course, it failed.
And D Sentry has lost the one thing he was afraid of - the Void. So not sure what fear based powers would do - don't forget, even before this, Sentry was powerful enough to TP the entire Earth. Unless Annihilus created visions of giant worms, perhaps.
