SoR Revan, FE Malgus and HoT run a gauntlet

Yeah, disintegrating a frigate with heat comparable to the outer layers of a star is ****ing miles ahead of anything Malgus has done in the force dude. Vader alone has crumpled TIE fighters mid flight, disintegrated Lyleks, manipulated freighters, collapsed massive platforms, melted durasteel/blown a hole through it, collapsed massive mining platforms, collapsed Wookie huts off a Wroshyr tree, etc. Malgus is less powerful than either of them, and less skilled than Vader overall.

I agree he'd lose a duel to Malgus, but he could overwhelm him with telekinesis once he realizes he'll fall in a duel.

Originally posted by carthage
Yeah, disintegrating a frigate with heat comparable to the outer layers of a star is ****ing miles ahead of anything Malgus has done in the force dude. Vader alone has crumpled TIE fighters mid flight, disintegrated Lyleks, manipulated freighters, collapsed massive platforms, melted durasteel/blown a hole through it, collapsed massive mining platforms, collapsed Wookie huts off a Wroshyr tree, etc. Malgus is less powerful than either of them, and less skilled than Vader overall.

I agree he'd lose a duel to Malgus, but he could overwhelm him with telekinesis once he realizes he'll fall in a duel.

Doesn't take a genius to work out that is not as impressive.

Malgus massively increased in power after that though.

Its actually highly impressive that Malgus could do that before his prime, but he overloaded the fuel canisters and that's what caused them to be destroyed. But those are a few ships compared to a massive Star destroyer. They aren't really comparable.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Doesn't take a genius to work out that is not as impressive.

Defeating a Jedi Master who had the raw power to collapse two buildings simultaneously > anything Darth Vader have in his resume.

Was Darth Sidious an idiot to believe that Malgus had unparalleled battlefield feats?

So overloading fuel canisters (which then causes the ships to blow up) is more impressive than reducing massive insects to bloody mist whose whose hides are thicker/more powerful than armor and melting a hole through a wall of solid durasteel/melting durasteel? Lol.

Originally posted by carthage
So overloading fuel canisters (which then causes the ships to blow up) is more impressive than reducing massive insects whose whose hides are thicker/more powerful than armor and melting a hole through a wall of solid durasteel/melting durasteel? Lol.

Strictly feats-based arguments will get you nowhere. How many times have I mentioned that Malgus defeated a Jedi Master who had the raw power to collapse two buildings simultaneously? Have Vader ever managed to collapse two buildings simultaneously?

Was Darth Sidious an idiot to believe that Malgus had unparalleled battlefield feats?

Malgus also have Force Maelstrom. What can Vader do to counter this power?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Malgus massively increased in power after that though.

I think people overhype the fact that FE Malgus caused the protags to twitch under his lightning.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Destroying a squadron of Republic Starfighters mid-flight > anything Darth Vader have in his resume.

Defeating a Jedi Master who had the raw power to collapse two buildings simultaneously > anything Darth Vader have in his resume.

I loled

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Destroying a squadron of Republic Starfighters mid-flight > anything Darth Vader have in his resume.

Defeating a Jedi Master who had the raw power to collapse two buildings simultaneously > anything Darth Vader have in his resume.

Was Darth Sidious an idiot to believe that Malgus had unparalleled battlefield feats?

Originally posted by Beniboybling
"Massively".

I think people overhype the fact that FE Malgus caused the protags to twitch under his lightning.

He also sent them flying tbf, and choked them if you consider scripted events canon. Granted, they may or may not have had their force barrier up when he downed them with lightning/TK

Originally posted by Beniboybling
"Massively".

I think people overhype the fact that FE Malgus caused the protags to twitch under his lightning.

I'm talking about Decieved. Malgus goes from being as strong as Leneer to almost casually one-shotting her. That's a huge boost. He also likely improved significantly both in the war between that starfighter feat and Decieved and after the war until his death.

Starkiller > Vader > Revan > Malgus in Force power

Vader > Malgus > Starkiller > Revan in dueling skills

Originally posted by carthage
He also sent them flying tbf, and choked them if you consider scripted events canon. Granted, they may or may not have had their force barrier up when he downed them with lightning/TK

And that's my point about lightning, I mean if your struck by powerful lightning and don't properly defend yourself, prepare to spasm.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I'm talking about Decieved. Malgus goes from being as strong as Leneer to almost casually one-shotting her. That's a huge boost. He also likely improved significantly both in the war between that starfighter feat and Decieved and after the war until his death.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
"Massively".

I think people overhype the fact that FE Malgus caused the protags to twitch under his lightning.

Protagonists were rendered immobile and were down on their knees writhing with pain. More importantly, Malgus subjected the protagonists to his Force Lightning for a short period. Malgus craved satisfaction of a lightsaber kill instead.

Malgus also dominated the protagonists with his telekinetic powers. During the course of the duel, Malgus immobilized 3 protagonist simultaneously with his telekinetic powers, and forced [1 on 1] duel on a single protagonist.

To be honest, this duel felt like a game-play mechanic rather then Malgus really trying to win.

Originally posted by Trocity
I loled

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Ah OK, fair enough. But on what basis are you claiming Malgus was Leener level?

They were fighting pretty equally. Both of them smacked each other around with TK, overpowered their force grips and such.

Most tellingly though, at one point Leneer blocks his lightning while in mid-air and powers straight through it with her lightsaber defense. After Malgus achieves Darkside Enlightenment or whatever he easily blows her lightsabers out of her hands with 1-handed lightning when she tries blocking it.

I don't see what LeGenD posted, but I assume it's the usual TORrulezItrollU!!

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Another troll.