Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
And WWH? LMAO, he'd show Desperate what true power is. Funny how they had to make this whack ****er look more monstrous to be taken seriously. Hulk has always been a monster. WWH would beat the dog shit out of Desperate.
BFR. He has teleportation, but when he fought Lobo, he just punched him so hard he flew away.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Also, won't Despero at his best be Despero with the Flame of Py'tar? Or is V&V Despero still top dog?
Flame of Py'tar is definitely the peak version of Despero by a very high margin. Considering he had reality warping powers when he had it it's not far behind Thanos getting the IG.
no one listed is taking Flame of Py'tar Despero unless Thanos get's the IG or the HOTU.
Originally posted by Genii96
And what's feats were these reality powers do?,jiust cuz he warps reality dosent put him on ig level
He was a bit like Proteus, IIRC. Turned buildings into dragon-like creatures, turned people into demony things, created stone golem creatures that were alive, transformed Gotham into his personal playgorund (created a castle out of thin air, volcanoes to erupt etc).
Originally posted by Genii96
And what's feats were these reality powers do?,jiust cuz he warps reality dosent put him on ig level
Originally posted by beatboks
I never said he was "IG level" simply that of those listed only Thanos could take that version either with the IG or Hotu. In both cases he'd do so easily I'd say, but would fail without them. Dark saint covered some of the feats, but like he said he could completely warp a city into something very different, conjure armies of summons etc.
And then on top of that, he still had his strength/TP etc, right?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And then on top of that, he still had his strength/TP etc, right?
Originally posted by beatboks
I never said he was "IG level" simply that of those listed only Thanos could take that version either with the IG or Hotu. In both cases he'd do so easily I'd say, but would fail without them. Dark saint covered some of the feats, but like he said he could completely warp a city into something very different, conjure armies of summons etc.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
LMAO everyone on my list would merc your overrated would be DC champ. When has Desperate ever shown the strength or speed of Dumb Drax who has destroyed planets??
I gave a character by character breakdown on how Despero would defeat his opponents.
Care to do the same?
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
And WWH? LMAO, he'd show Desperate what true power is. Funny how they had to make this whack ****er look more monstrous to be taken seriously. Hulk has always been a monster. WWH would beat the dog shit out of Desperate.
Show me the instances of WWH defeating the Heralds that Despero nearly instantly annihilated in V&V.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
1) Dumb Drax- Drax loses every single time against the top 3 incarnations of Despero. His speed, strength, psionic ability and durability are too much.Despero 10/10
2) Warlock- Warlock would have to utilize the Soul Gem depending on the version. Adam is reluctant to use it at the outset of a fight and that would be his undoing. Despero is too intense and cunning to lose here.
Despero 10/10
3) Silver Surfer- Norrin isn't immune to psionic attack. This is the element Despero would exploit to his advantage.
Despero 7/10
4) Blue Marvel- Even without psionic attack, Despero's, power would overwhelm Adam the same way he did several high heralds who are of comprable power at the same time.
Despero 10/10
5) Apocalypse- MF's avatar could never replicate Despero's performance against some of the most powerful High heralds in the medium. Place Apocalypse in Despero's place and tell me how he fares.
Despero 9/10
6) Cassandra Nova- Despero's prowess as a psionic is strong enough to stalemate Nova until he breaks her neck. Nova doesn't have the physical stats to withstand even a fraction of an assault from Despero.
Despero 10/10
7) World War Hulk- Despero breaks Banner. Period. If the Hulk had the chance to amp to Worldbreaker it would be interesting, he won't get that chance.
Despero 10/10
8) Nova- Rider has been the most proficient wielder of the Nova force and he would fall to Despero.
Despero 10/10
This point is pretty much on point.
I think SS would lose 10/10 He would be beat physically and mentally.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
When has Thanos resisted reality warping unamped?Do you even concede that Thanos needs an amp to contend with Flame of Py'Tar Despero?
In case you missed it, the Flame of Pytar is an outside source of power, and not at all a normal Despero at full power, or at his normal best. If we want to go that route, I could just say Adam Warlock with the IG. It is no longer just about Despero, but a DC character standing behind the Flame of Pytar [insert name] vs Some poor Marvel character [insert name] without anything to offset the handicap in play. Is that what the people arguing for Despero are aiming at? More importantly, is that what you are aiming at? If so, no character below a powerful cosmic, or abstract level being has a prayer against an equally powerful artifact that was augmenting Despero.