Marvel Characters that can best Superman

Originally posted by Surtur
Because he consistently isn't powerful enough. If you want to go by high end non consistent feats fine, but then we do the same for Supes and he still blows Apocalypse away. His being an X-Foe is irrelevant.

Moral of the story is the current Superman writer just plain does not know what the f*ck he is talking about. I mean holy shit that is up there with Joss Whedon's "Buffy is Spider-Man level strong!" comments.

I think you need to stop repeating asinine claims from people in the comic business. Even if you don't believe their asinine claims, it doesn't help. This harkens back to the "Marvel said Hulk is stronger then Celestials!" thing.

Or you just need to start reading some Hulk comics. Simple process. It's ok if you think Superman can beat Hulk, Thor, or whoever but don't act like your opinion is set in stone when overall, it isn't. Especially for a person that admitted he doesn't read comics on the character.

Your last post tells me you haven't read much of Marvel if you don't think they do their fair share of dick measuring. Seriously? They just do it in different ways.

Originally posted by carver9
Or you just need to start reading some Hulk comics. Simple process. It's ok if you think Superman can beat Hulk, Thor, or whoever but don't act like your opinion is set in stone when overall, it isn't. Especially for a person that admitted he doesn't read comics on the character.

But you STILL need to stop with the asinine claims from people in comics. Use feats, not what motherf*ckers said. I don't care if God himself comes down and says Hulk can beat Superman, you don't cite that, you cite feats.

You mentioning some dipshit said Hulk can beat an amped Superman suggests YOU agree. How can you be taken seriously then, if you agree with that statement?

Originally posted by Surtur
Your last post tells me you haven't read much of Marvel if you don't think they do their fair share of dick measuring.

But you STILL need to stop with the asinine claims from people in comics. Use feats, not what motherf*ckers said.

Who said I'm taking writer words for my claims? Some have said Superman can beat Hulk as well. You're missing the point. Whoever claims whoever wins between the two is what everyone? It's their opinions. You can go against this if you want but at the end of the day if someone think Superman can beat Hulk or Hulk can beat Superman, it's their opinion and you saying something different does not make your claim right. There are some here that'll give Hulk the majority over Supes and there are some that goes against this. Imo, current Hulk would break him but you don't have to agree with this and I think you know why...

But we all know everyone has opinions. But of course people their opinion is the right one. So you are making points that do not need to be made.

Yes, it is my opinion Hulk can't win. Also now I'm of the opinion Superman needs a new writer, but that is a different discussion.

Originally posted by Surtur
Your last post tells me you haven't read much of Marvel if you don't think they do their fair share of dick measuring.

But you STILL need to stop with the asinine claims from people in comics. Use feats, not what motherf*ckers said.

**** FEATS

Yeah, I said it. The biggest determining factor is performances against characters of a similar tier. For example, those of you that think that Superman is above Thor, even within the context of the shitty fight they had (portrayed by a writer who was on his way to write for D.C.), why were they shown to be at worst near equals (of course with Thor ignoring 85% of his power set)? Feats don't mean shit. Some D.C. fans would argue that Green Lantern has better feats than Surfer, but it didn't matter in their meeting, did it?

Originally posted by Surtur
But we all know everyone has opinions. But of course people their opinion is the right one. So you are making points that do not need to be made.

Yes, it is my opinion Hulk can't win.

WTF is Surtur your handle? All you do is boost D.C.

Anyway, do you really think that Superman is above all incarnations of Hulk?

So again, we go by feats and you just said screw em. Nothing more to say.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
WTF is Surtur your handle? All you do is boost D.C.

Anyway, do you really think that Superman is above all incarnations of Hulk?

Uh nope, I've been in a variety of Marvel topics saying they can win. I just kind of go by feats, you know, the same things you just said "screw it!" in regards to? I've said countless times Thanos can beat Supes, that Silver Surfer can, that Sentry can. I even said it in a recent topic. But yeah, all I do is boost DC!

Originally posted by Surtur
But we all know everyone has opinions. But of course people their opinion is the right one. So you are making points that do not need to be made.

Yes, it is my opinion Hulk can't win. Also now I'm of the opinion Superman needs a new writer, but that is a different discussion.

Understandable. Now we know your opinion. My opinion on Hulk being able to win is based on his freaking punching power and durability. Within a 6 to 7 month time span it was said that Hulk could juggle suns and I believe it since the guy held a freaking sun on his back. Not only that, he punched a ship the size of a continent out of orbit. Tanked a Continental level attack. Fought against a Hulk and the entire planet was shaking. Recently fought and was shaking a continent. Fought again recently and shook the planet. I don't even have to go back a yr (where he has insane fts) let alone five to ten years. This dude has been consistently, insanely powerful. Yes, I am most Def giving him the edge. Hell, they had to gather a team of Avengers that had a Thor on it to halt Hulk and he felt confident that he could take them. Now explain your ON PANEL reasons on why DCNU Superman can beat Hulk.

Originally posted by JayDaDon
To say neither Thor nor Surfer who are at the very least equals with Superman, couldn't POSSIBLY beat Superman is nothing short of fanboyism.

And I said they can't beat him for a majority.

Originally posted by carver9
Understandable. Now we know your opinion. My opinion on Hulk being able to win is based on his freaking punching power and durability. Within a 6 to 7 month time span it was said that Hulk could juggle suns and I believe it since the guy held a freaking sun on his back. Not only that, he punched a ship the size of a continent out of orbit. Tanked a Continental level attack. Fought against a Hulk and the entire planet was shaking. Recently fought and was shaking a continent. Fought again recently and shook the planet. I don't even have to go back a yr (where he has insane fts) let alone five to ten years. This dude has been consistently, insanely powerful. Yes, I am most Def giving him the edge. Hell, they had to gather a team of Avengers that had a Thor on it to halt Hulk and he felt confident that he could take them. Now explain your ON PANEL reasons on why DCNU Superman can beat Hulk.

How did his fight with Sun God went carver?

That guys list is phucking awful

Originally posted by Surtur
Uh nope, I've been in a variety of Marvel topics saying they can win. I just kind of go by feats, you know, the same things you just said "screw it!" in regards to? I've said countless times Thanos can beat Supes, that Silver Surfer can, that Sentry can. I even said it in a recent topic. But yeah, all I do is boost DC!

That's what I have observed, a lot of D.C. ball washing. I don't see any of the "countless" claims and if I did, I wouldn't have commented as I did.

Originally posted by abhilegend
At the very least equal? Want to test that? I've thrown challenge for surfer fans right now, you can post feats for surfer if you like.

And I said they can't beat him for a majority.

LMAO, you can't test that, they aren't real characters. Snap back to reality.

Originally posted by abhilegend
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How did his fight with Sun God went carver?

The same way Superman fight against Helspont went. Hulk fought, had the advantage and loss. Superman fou... my bad, he got one pieced, got a brain injury and passed the f out. Not the only time it happened either. Helspont combat showings sucks by the way.

Originally posted by carver9
The same way Superman fight against Helspont went. Hulk fought, had the advantage and loss. Superman fou... my bad, he got one pieced, got a brain injury and passed the f out. Not the only time it happened either. Helspont combat showings sucks by the way.

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You should have said the same way Sups did against The Anointed One.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
LMAO, you can't test that, they aren't real characters. Snap back to reality.

You should read them.

Originally posted by carver9
The same way Superman fight against Helspont went. Hulk fought, had the advantage and loss. Superman fou... my bad, he got one pieced, got a brain injury and passed the f out. Not the only time it happened either. Helspont combat showings sucks by the way.

How did Hulk's fight with those gorillas went BTW? The same ones which Shanna was fighting?

Or against Wolverine?

Originally posted by abhilegend
There are these things called comics.

You should read them.
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How did Hulk's fight with those gorillas went BTW? The same ones which Shanna was fighting?

Or against Wolverine?

Hulk got bit pretty good by Gorilla. Kind of like Batman on Venom punched blood out of Superman mouth or Superman getting killed by an amped Batman punch. Or Aquaman one shotting him. Or...

I don't even know why I am continuing this with you. What's the point here ABHI?

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk got bit pretty good by Gorilla. Kind of like Batman on Venom punched blood out of Superman mouth or Superman getting killed by an amped Batman punch. Or Aquaman one shotting him. Or...

I don't even know why I am continuing this with you. What's the point here ABHI?

Ok, none of the things you said were actually true except Batman drawing blood from Superman.

You better shut up about the nonsense of Batman killing Superman with one punch.

That hulk will get his shit pushed in by Superman? Just like against Sun God? Even your go Pak said WBH needs to get angry to beat Superman.

BTW what does Helspont has to do with this anyway? Is Helspont based on Hulk?

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk got bit pretty good by Gorilla. Kind of like Batman on Venom punched blood out of Superman mouth or Superman getting killed by an amped Batman punch. Or Aquaman one shotting him. Or...

I don't even know why I am continuing this with you. What's the point here ABHI?

There's never a point, the young man is in a constant state of conflict.