Is it a sin to seek knowledge?

Is it a sin to seek knowledge?

Is it a sin to want to open one’s eyes instead of being blind?

Is it a sin to do as scriptures urge us to do?

Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Gen 3:2 And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil:

Adam and Eve were doing exactly what we are all told by scriptures to do, yet God seemed quite upset.

Why is seeking knowledge and ignoring a vile command to remain in ignorant bliss wrong or a sin?

Are you sinning when you seek knowledge and becoming more like God?

Regards
DL

I don't know because I don't want to sin. 😛

the answer to your first three questions is: NO...

why combine two different verses? the passage on Genesis 3:22 was said in the time of Adam while Matthew 5:48 was said by Jesus in His preachings... you condemn literal reading but you are being literal yourself...

From what I've gathered Greatest is being literal in his readings on propose because he despises literal readings of the Bible.

I, personally, don't see the value of that general strategy, specially considering the literal readers in this site are a very slim (or at least mostly silent) minority.

It's not the tree of knowledge it's the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Evil didn't exist prior to the original sin, so man couldn't have know about it.

And God forbade Adam and Eve to eat from the tree, and clarified that they'd die if they did.

And the Book of Mathew does not apply to the garden of Eden.

Originally posted by Astner
Evil didn't exist prior to the original sin,

No war in heaven then?

Originally posted by Bentley
No war in heaven then?

Originally posted by Astner
The war specified in Revelations will take place at the end-times.

So technically the state of Lucifer's fall from grace is "it hasn't happened yet"? Does that mean he's still in Heaven and hasn't tried to overcome God? For whatever reason I had that event prior to the creation of men, but I guess that could also work.

Originally posted by Astner
The war specified in Revelations will take place at the end-times.

A war did happen in Heaven, and still continues this day. Satan was cast from Heaven, and fell to Earth.

Revelation 12:7-12 talks about the casting out of Satan-two times. One was at the beginning when he rebelled in Heaven, just before creation of life on earth, and the second was at Calvary.

And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. (Revelation 12:7-9)

This war was in Heaven; two groups against each other-

Michael and the loyal angels on one side, and Satan and his angels on the other side. In this first battle Satan and his sympathizers lost their place in Heaven. They were thrown out from Heaven to earth.

Obviously, this earth was still uninhabited. It was "without form and void and darkness was on the face of the deep" (Genesis 1:2).

God had to throw him out of Heaven into a particular place. As the whole universe is God's, Satan had to be somewhere in God's vast creation. And earth was the place.

And when God created life on planet earth (according to His prior plan and set time), He warned Adam and Eve of this wily foe.

Satan would not have got a hold on this planet had Adam and Eve stood the simplest of test, just once! God then would have cut short the time period of Satan.

Also it is not a sin to seek knowledge, it is what a person does with that knowledge. This is something that should be common knowledge, nor should it be difficult to realize.

Originally posted by Greatest I am
Is it a sin to seek knowledge?

Is it a sin to want to open one’s eyes instead of being blind?

Is it a sin to do as scriptures urge us to do?

Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Gen 3:2 And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil:

Adam and Eve were doing exactly what we are all told by scriptures to do, yet God seemed quite upset.

Why is seeking knowledge and ignoring a vile command to remain in ignorant bliss wrong or a sin?

Are you sinning when you seek knowledge and becoming more like God?

Regards
DL

Too much knowledge is evil because it brings into question the authority of the Church.

If people had real knowledge they might invent things like science and discover that the Earth is not flat, and the heavens are not filled with angels.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Too much knowledge is evil because it brings into question the authority of the Church.

If people had real knowledge they might invent things like science and discover that the Earth is not flat, and the heavens are not filled with angels.

"It is he who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to dwell in;"
Isaiah 40:22

Hebrew word chuwg (H2329) means circle, sphere, circuit, compass...

Originally posted by dyajeep
the answer to your first three questions is: NO...

why combine two different verses? the passage on Genesis 3:22 was said in the time of Adam while Matthew 5:48 was said by Jesus in His preachings... you condemn literal reading but you are being literal yourself...

Nice deflection.

The issue is knowledge. Not the cherry picking that all your preachers do.

Regards
DL

Originally posted by Bentley
From what I've gathered Greatest is being literal in his readings on propose because he despises literal readings of the Bible.

I, personally, don't see the value of that general strategy, specially considering the literal readers in this site are a very slim (or at least mostly silent) minority.

Literally read or not, those are the pertinent passages I chose to use.

Should I have just make something up so that Christians could complain about that?

Regards
DL

Originally posted by Astner
It's not the tree of knowledge it's the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Evil didn't exist prior to the original sin, so man couldn't have know about it.

And God forbade Adam and Eve to eat from the tree, and clarified that they'd die if they did.

And the Book of Mathew does not apply to the garden of Eden.

Irrelevant and ignoring the issue says that you cannot justify God's actions in Eden.

Regards
DL

Originally posted by dyajeep
"It is he who sits above [b]the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to dwell in;"
Isaiah 40:22

Hebrew word chuwg (H2329) means circle, sphere, circuit, compass... [/B]

True.

The ancients stupidly thought that the stars were attached to a sphere way up in the heavens that rotated around the earth.

Regards
DL

Originally posted by Greatest I am
Literally read or not, those are the pertinent passages I chose to use.

Should I have just make something up so that Christians could complain about that?

Regards
DL

Neither is the issue. Let's assume there are pertinent passages because religion is somehow valid, how do we deal with possible interpretations of those texts? For religious people it's a legitimate problem unless they are literalists or follow orthodox rules without thinking.

Originally posted by Greatest I am
Irrelevant

You went from a very specific piece of knowledge—that couldn't have been know since it didn't exist—to knowledge in general. That's a slippery slope.

On the contrary, the Bible promotes learning an the search for knowledge.

Source.

Originally posted by Greatest I am
ignoring the issue says that you cannot justify God's actions in Eden.

Originally posted by Astner
It's not the tree of knowledge it's the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Evil didn't exist prior to the original sin, so man couldn't have know about it.

And God forbade Adam and Eve to eat from the tree, and clarified that they'd die if they did.

And the Book of Mathew does not apply to the garden of Eden.

It almost makes you wonder why God created a death fruit tree in the Garden of Eden.

Of course not.