Can the Military defeat an alien invasion.

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Originally posted by AgentJay04
So you're suggesting that aliens are gonna clone us like how they did dinosaurs? Really. And you saw how well that went for InGen in the movies. Even though they had fricking .50 cal and rockets they got wrecked by velociraptors and a t-rex. And I bet these cloning facilities would be on their homeworld or an important planet. So imagine, if we got free, all the havoc we could do.

Minimal damage. I've yet to meet a naked human who can shrug off .50 cal rounds.

Yeah see the problem with Ancient Aliens is..they are like that broken clock that is right only twice a day. They give you a few interesting facts but then sometimes they spin it in a very crazy direction. Also some of the commenters on the show are kind of..nutty. That one blonde guy has said he is the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce.

I will admit..I do like Giorgio. You can't help but like him even when he is talking crazy. You will notice they kind of focus on him. Last year they had two shows: Ancient Aliens and a show hosted specifically by Giorgio called "In Search of Aliens". But now Ancient Aliens is called "Ancient Aliens the Ultimate Evidence" and it seems it kind of combined the "In Search Of" show, because Giorgio was also on Ancient Aliens, but not as much as he is now.

I'm actually liking the "UFO Files Hangar 1" show better, because they are pulling stuff from actual case files and shit. MUFON is actually respected in the UFO community(for all the merit that brings). But it is also the go to place for police or pilots who work for airlines to go to in order to report sightings, because talking about it to their own superiors could cost them their job or otherwise hinder their career. This is why you end up with a lot of people keeping quiet until they are old and have lived their life.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
What's his best one for you?

Time Machine? First Men on the Moon? Invisible Man?

Arguably the best is the Invisible Man, but the Time Machine is more of my thing.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
And I think it being his most popular book is a great argument for why it's his best one. When you come 70 or so years down the road from an author's death, the old criteria for assessing an author's work starts to fall aside, and the important consideration is what that author left behind that's memorable and culturally significant.

The popularity of a book and it's staying power is backed by many positive and objective things about it's aesthetic value, most of the time you'll be right at assuming the popular choice it's the best one. But books are written words, their net content isn't changed by the lore entertained by their readerbase.

Playing devil's advocate, I could say that if anything cultural weight decreases the value of a book. Adaptations become more relevant and better than the original work, making the original sense of it fuzzy in the mind of it's readers. Mythology is a thing that gets transformed, a book is in the opposite side of the specter.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Take Fitzgerald. Many will point out that Great Gatsby isn't his best written or best plotted work, but no one can seriously argue it's not his "greatest" book because it's what's made his legacy.

A simple statement can beat a consciously written speech when it comes to beauty.

I wouldn't equate mainstream popularity and academic credit either. Proust and Joyce are unreadable for many and lauded as great by most of their peers.

I agree with Bentley. Books have words in them.

Aliens if they aren't trying to be helpful an are actually hostile, should man up an create a tournament where their best fighters and our best fighters are put head to head in matches for the fate of the world in a battle of fisticuffs. **** that technology BS, it's all about muscle and throwing knuckles, seeing how much the other can take with their pride on the line before the opposition drops.

Originally posted by Surtur
Yeah see the problem with Ancient Aliens is..they are like that broken clock that is right only twice a day. They give you a few interesting facts but then sometimes they spin it in a very crazy direction. Also some of the commenters on the show are kind of..nutty. That one blonde guy has said he is the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce.

I will admit..I do like Giorgio. You can't help but like him even when he is talking crazy. You will notice they kind of focus on him. Last year they had two shows: Ancient Aliens and a show hosted specifically by Giorgio called "In Search of Aliens". But now Ancient Aliens is called "Ancient Aliens the Ultimate Evidence" and it seems it kind of combined the "In Search Of" show, because Giorgio was also on Ancient Aliens, but not as much as he is now.

I'm actually liking the "UFO Files Hangar 1" show better, because they are pulling stuff from actual case files and shit. MUFON is actually respected in the UFO community(for all the merit that brings). But it is also the go to place for police or pilots who work for airlines to go to in order to report sightings, because talking about it to their own superiors could cost them their job or otherwise hinder their career. This is why you end up with a lot of people keeping quiet until they are old and have lived their life.

I see we watched the same shows last year!
Yeah, the shows get a little hokey, but they're fun as hell, for a comics geek like me. I like Grigorio too. He needs another show.

Originally posted by Yamcha
Aliens if they aren't trying to be helpful an are actually hostile, should man up an create a tournament where their best fighters and our best fighters are put head to head in matches for the fate of the world in a battle of fisticuffs. **** that technology BS, it's all about muscle and throwing knuckles, seeing how much the other can take with their pride on the line before the opposition drops.

I'll vote you as Earth's ambassador.

I think the only realistic and viable way to win against an alien attack is to somehow shoot down and steal one of their scout ships and fly it up to the Mothership located orbiting earth. Then the scouter ship flys into the mothership nonchalantly. Once inside a virus is uploaded into their systems, bringing down their defenses. Only then do we humans have a short window to strike with all we got.

Spoiler:
FTW

Originally posted by Omega Vision
War of the Worlds is his best book. The battle between HMS Thunderchild and the three tripods in the channel is one of the greatest moments of science fiction, and I've always been disappointed how none of the major adaptations have anything like it.
I forget how many times I've read WOTW, far more times than any of his other novels. But I do have to disagree about George Pal's adaptation. The battle scene, starting with the priest walking out and reciting Psalm 23, is perhaps the best alien battle scene in moviedom, way better (imo) than the crowded-skies-dogfighting (eg, ID4), which has since become the "standard" (t.y. Star Wars).

Originally posted by Bentley
Arguably the best is the Invisible Man, but the Time Machine is more of my thing.
Have you read Stephen Baxter's follow-up, The Time Ships? Imo, it is a fantastic (if long-winded) "sequel," especially if you're familiar with his Xeelee Sequence series.

Originally posted by Mindship
I forget how many times I've read WOTW, far more times than any of his other novels. But I do have to disagree about George Pal's adaptation. The battle scene, starting with the priest walking out and reciting Psalm 23, is perhaps the best alien battle scene in moviedom, way better (imo) than the crowded-skies-dogfighting (eg, ID4), which has since become the "standard" (t.y. Star Wars).

I think the Pal adaptation doesn't have anything like the Thunderchild because the point of HMS Thunderchild was that it gave humanity just a bit of hope that the Martians could be defeated by force of arms. This hope was effectively erased when the Martians started building flying machines (before they started dying off), but it was what made that moment so special, and at no point in any of the major adaptations does such a moment come.

I guess in the recent one, there is the scene where Tom Cruise destroys a tripod by basically almost suicide bombing it, but I'm not sure if that counts.