Ranking the Criminal Underworld....

Which is why I said:

Originally posted by ares834
Depends what is considered "criminal underground" and what isn't. I doubt there is much that can stand against the Hutt Empire during its heyday.

When Zenwolf responded the Hutt Empire appears to match what he wanted.

Eh...tbh I don't see much info in the way for this Hutt Empire in what they did. As far as what I was looking for.

Plus when they were around, no other organization was there to challenge them. So I question as them being number 1 anyway.

Black Sun seems most fitting as number 1 given what is known and what they did, who they surpassed and so on.

I can only assume Wolf was confused and thought you meant the Hutt Cartel considering:

Ya know, smuggling, gun running, drugs, extortion, bribery, information gathering, black market trading, assassination, political corruption, etc so on and so forth.

They were warlords, they had armies and conquered stuff, the whole idea is that they turned to crime after the collapse of their civilisation.

Information gathering lol

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Information gathering lol

What? Crime Organizations can get someone info...provided you have enough credits.

Also Beni I was sort of thinking that he was talking about the Hutt Cartel..

But anyway yeah, from what I see, the Hutt Empire was just a bunch of warlords and the like that didn't do anything of what stipulations I have panned out.

Well again I'd raise the Zann Consortium.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Well again I'd raise the Zann Consortium.

Wait yeah, I goofed they are different things. Whoops!

Originally posted by Beniboybling
The Hutt Empire partook in none of these activities.

They were warlords, they had armies and conquered stuff, the whole idea is that they turned to crime after the collapse of their civilisation.

No. They actually partook in pretty much all of those. lol

Sure they had armies but they used commerce as a weapon as well. I recall they enslaved an entire species by making them so in debt that they were forced to sell their race and planet to the Hutts.

It's kinda hard to be a criminal power IMO, when you are the dominant power in the Galaxy. Can't exactly be a criminal when you're the ones setting the rules.

Hell, you could probably put a lot of those things on the Galactic Empire tbh. They aren't a criminal organization though.

Sure you can.

The US gov't does illegal shit all the time.

Originally posted by ares834
I recall they enslaved an entire species by making them so in debt that they were forced to sell their race and planet to the Hutts.

Originally posted by ares834
The US gov't does illegal shit all the time.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
How is that illegal? Besides that was done by the Cartel, post-Empire.

They also did it prior to Xim’s empire IIRC.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
So the US gov't is a criminal/underworld organisation?

Never said that did I?

The Hutt Empire, however, was involved with what is usually considered “underworld” activities. It met Zen’s requirements hence why I’ve argued for it.

Yet to see any evidence of them engaging in any "underworld" activities of any kind.

So yeah, those requirements have yet to be met.

I'm still thinking BS is #1 because the competition for the Hutt Empire wasn't that great as far as Underworld stuff went. In fact from the looks of it, there wasn't any other competition.

Whereas the Black Sun blew away all other crime syndicates and noted as the most powerful out of them all.

You're right, there wasn't much competition. Because they squashed it like they did to Zim. Regardless, it wasn't technically a criminal organization so I could see why some won't consider it.

In which case, I'd say the Zann Consortium seem to weild the most power.

I can see the Zann as 2 and Hutt as 3 respectively behind the Black Sun.

What about The Exchange or Czerka though?

I wonder where Czerka Corp is ranked. They seemed to be prominent during TOR era

Czerka isn't really a criminal organisation, sure some of their business practices were questionable but they were first and foremost a legal corporation and arms dealer.

The Swtor Smuggler was supposed to be the biggest single crime boss up til their time.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Czerka isn't really a criminal organisation, sure some of their business practices were questionable but they were first and foremost a legal corporation and arms dealer.

I always felt it was, but then again....eh. I guess it wouldn't apply.

So this just leaves The Exchange as last then?