THE WORTHY: Herald Gauntlet

Originally posted by abhilegend
So, because it happened sometime, it happens everytime?

Then why is his speech bubble filled in the very next panel when he entered atmosphere?

As already stated by someone before. It could have been there to show a stunned state . It could have simply been there to show him mumbling. All so we can see Nul go from 0 to a hundred in a few panels.

I'm not saying it has to show that particular outcome but if we are talking averages on comics being unable to talk in space is so low the others are more likely then that one.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Thorbags are blind to that.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So, because it happened sometime, it happens everytime?

Then why is his speech bubble filled in the very next panel when he entered atmosphere?

Nul reached the stratosphere. He never left earth's atmosphere. He can't enter something he never left. The heat was really due to the speed at which he was accelerating back down through the atmosphere. I think for the sake of argument everyone is calling it reentry.

Originally posted by Newjak
I wouldn't say it's a sometimes occurrence because it happens too regularly for it to be that.

As already stated by someone before. It could have been there to show a stunned state . It could have simply been there to show him mumbling. All so we can see Nul go from 0 to a hundred in a few panels.

I'm not saying it has to show that particular outcome but if we are talking averages on comics being unable to talk in space is so low the others are more likely then that one.

Yet, in the very next panel where he enters atmosphere, he was talking. Now it's possible that Fraction saw Internet meme about characters talking in space but that's just reaching.

You know Occam's razor and all that shit.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
So rational explanations being given are answered with fan boy and thorbag?

??

Nul reached the stratosphere. He never left earth's atmosphere. He can't enter something he never left. The heat was really due to the speed at which he was accelerating back down through the atmosphere. I think for the sake of argument everyone is calling it reentry.

Reentry is not reentry. It's just hulk flying down too fast.

This is rational talking?

crylaugh

I forgot how full of excuses you are.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Of course you can. There are several instances where characters are shown to be unable to talk in space. It's not a general rule that characters can always talk in space.

Yet, in the very next panel where he enters atmosphere, he was talking. Now it's possible that Fraction saw Internet meme about characters talking in space but that's just reaching.

You know Occam's razor and all that shit.
Now, being unable to talk through vacuum/lack of air isn't "unable to talk through lack of air".

Reentry is not reentry. It's just hulk flying down too fast.

This is rational talking?

crylaugh

I forgot how full of excuses you are.

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Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Good job on deflecting and not actually addressing points that were given.

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Great argument.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Like reentry isn't actually reentry?

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Great argument.

It's not stated anywhere in the comic. Now please add something useful to the discussion and not derail it with trollish replies.

Hulk burning up while entering atmosphere isn't reentry.

We need specific words for that.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Hulk burning up while entering atmosphere isn't reentry.

We need specific words for that.

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Abhi. Why are you stuck on reentry. We are already calling it that. I guess you have nothing left to add but troll and derail? Come on bruh. Give me something worth replying to. Do you have actual points to reinforce or are you going to just continue posting laugh emotes?

i'd be willing to wager a full life time ban on the entire INTERNET, not just this site, that the empty speech bubble was intended to get across the idea that sound doesn't travel in space. some authors take that kind of thing more seriously than others. there are scans of thor having to wear a mask in outer space. there have DEFINITELY been times where sound has clearly NOT traveled in space. the bubble is there though, obviously for a reason. that fact alone makes it...illogical to assume he was in any way at all ko'd. like i said, it seems inarguable to me, but this discussion was old years ago.

i'm certainly not calling you a fanboy celey (i know you're far from that), but i confess to not being able to understand how you think you (or anyone) can support the idea that he was ko'd in that panel--certainly not based on the reasons you've given.

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If there was an argument worth discussing, I might do it.

As it is, you are simply denying what happened in the comic.

Where are the scans of hulk only reaching stratosphere?

Originally posted by leonidas
i'd be willing to wager a full life time ban on the entire INTERNET, not just this site, that the empty speech bubble was intended to get across the idea that sound doesn't travel in space. some authors take that kind of thing more seriously than others. there are scans of thor having to wear a mask in outer space. there have DEFINITELY been times where sound has clearly NOT traveled in space. the bubble is there though, obviously for a reason. that fact alone makes it...illogical to assume he was in any way at all ko'd. like i said, it seems inarguable to me, but this discussion was old years ago.

i'm certainly not calling you a fanboy celey (i know you're far from that), but i confess to not being able to understand how you think you (or anyone) can support the idea that he was ko'd in that panel--certainly not based on the reasons you've given.

And if we were going the technical route going by your feel for what this writer thinks about sounds in space, wouldn't Nul still be able to create sounds with his voice since sound can travel in the stratosphere? Nul was never in an actual vacuum of space.

Originally posted by abhilegend
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If there was an argument worth discussing, I might do it.

As it is, you are simply denying what happened in the comic.

Where are the scans of hulk only reaching stratosphere?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Of course you can. There are several instances where characters are shown to be unable to talk in space. It's not a general rule that characters can always talk in space.

Yet, in the very next panel where he enters atmosphere, he was talking. Now it's possible that Fraction saw Internet meme about characters talking in space but that's just reaching.

You know Occam's razor and all that shit.
Now, being unable to talk through vacuum/lack of air isn't "unable to talk through lack of air".

Reentry is not reentry. It's just hulk flying down too fast.

This is rational talking?

crylaugh

I forgot how full of excuses you are.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Read the book. Did you ever know me as one to lie about these things. Referenced in both Fear Itself and the Hulk vs Drac tie in.

I'm not going to do your work. Post the scans.

Originally posted by Newjak
it's happened but most times writers give two shits about people not being able to talk in space.

Seemed like Fraction did give a shit about it as he was able to talk one panel later in atmosphere.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Way to generalize.

Seemed like Fraction did give a shit about it as he was able to talk one panel later in atmosphere.

And we don't know if that was what the bubble was supposed to mean. Like as been pointed oUT before that kind of bubble has also been used to show case being stunned.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Well the very thing you are using as a reason for not being ko'd is the very thing I'm using he was. I saw it as a way to convey that Nul was just coming around before his accelerated descent. I always thought it was further reinforced by the disparity of his body language and facial expression between the first and second panel. It felt as if some time has elapsed(nothing significant but enough) from him being punted into the stratosphere and the panel where he was shown drifting because it clearly showed no significant amount of energy or momentum. It's as if he was slowly drifting for a bit then started to come around with his acceleration through the atmosphere. I like Newjak's explanation of him in a stunned state or even mumbling and his 0 to 60 expression.

And if we were going the technical route going by your feel for what this writer thinks about sounds in space, wouldn't Nul still be able to create sounds with his voice since sound can travel in the stratosphere? Nul was never in an actual vacuum of space.

that last bit of info wasn't acknowledged until later though, so space could easily have been the intent. or the person in the later book was just wrong... and even at the very edge, sound would just BARELY be able to carry--if it could at all.

you're still reaching too far imo. the simplest explanation is usually the best one--there was a speech bubble. ergo, he was trying to talk or at least make some sound. that's...why they are used. to infer anything else from it just seems....pointless. to try and say a speech bubble was used just to try and show he was...coming to or whatever seems kinda ridiculous to me. no need for mental gymnastics here, at all, imo. but like i said, you're a big boy. i just think your stance (and anyone else who shares it) is pretty unsupportable. clearly not changing your mind though, so, shake hands and agree to disagree.

Originally posted by leonidas
that last bit of info wasn't acknowledged until later though, so space could easily have been the intent. or the person in the later book was just wrong... and even at the very edge, sound would just BARELY be able to carry--if it could at all.

you're still reaching too far imo. the simplest explanation is usually the best one--there was a speech bubble. ergo, he was trying to talk or at least make some sound. that's...why they are used. to infer anything else from it just seems....pointless. to try and say a speech bubble was used just to try and show he was...coming to or whatever seems kinda ridiculous to me. no need for mental gymnastics here, at all, imo. but like i said, you're a big boy. i just think your stance (and anyone else who shares it) is pretty unsupportable. clearly not changing your mind though, so, shake hands and agree to disagree.

My main thing sticks though pretending that somehow him being in space as the sole reason thw bubble is empty is a silly foundation in a comic considering how often that rule broken.

Originally posted by Newjak
it is because it applies. Superman Lobo Rulk Surfer Wonder Woman Green Lantern Iron Man and the list can keep growing have all done it. It's the same as characters being able to to have entire conversations in the midst of a one secondition action panel. It's comic they care more for the story telling then anything else.

And we don't know if that was what the bubble was supposed to mean. Like as been pointed oUT before that kind of bubble has also been used to show case being stunned.

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Originally posted by Newjak
Leo even if the bubble was trying to show him talking you guys do realize people can talk while Knocked the f*ck out. Heck people still convulse when KOED throwing punches and the like.

My main thing sticks though pretending that somehow him being in space as the sole reason thw bubble is empty is a silly foundation in a comic considering how often that rule broken.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So you ignore the actual comic contradicting it as Hulk couldn't talk into space and later he could talk into atmosphere but citing random example which have no relevance to the actual comic?

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How was he koed? Any implication would suffice. Just one mention of him being koed or even stunned.