Originally posted by Time-ImmemorialMost of those places and items are regulated. A lot of those regulations are for the reasons listed. People abused their trust and now we have things in place to help prevent that. Thus I have a much higher degree of trust in that label and the fact it won't kill me then some random guy on the street trying to give me a deal on something. The same would go for someone to try and sell me a 25 dollar tv on the street. I wouldn't trust it.
People cook food for you every day, that you never meet. Put food in boxes that you cook, and label it with long drawn out chemical names and fillers, and you blindly trust them. Yet a face to face transaction, in public can't be trusted now?
Originally posted by Bardock42
Well not completely blindly. There's some regulation on food and experience has shown that trusting the food preparation in most western countries is a pretty safe bet.Now someone trying to give or sell you "gold" on the street is almost always a scam (the most famous one is probably the fake rolex one), so it makes a lot of sense to be more suspicious.
Sure, ever heard of the Diamond District in LA, people sell gold, silver diamonds on the street, and in stores.
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=Diamond+District+LA
If this was happening there, would it be a scam too? But cause this is two hours south, this jewlery store is a fraud now?
You got to be joking.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Your arguing to argue, and sympathizing with random idots who have no idea about the value of anything.
I'm not arguing to argue, or really arguing at all. I have a different opinion on this topic than you do.
And yes, I do sympathize with these people, I've been in situations where I was approached on the street and I've been wary, and I've been burned at times, I can totally understand their reaction, and would most likely have fallen in the same category.
I don't think they don't know the value of anything, even if they don't know what gold and silver are currently traded for.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
You seem to be missing the point.There was a guy that had headphones on. Mark asked him "How much where those" he said $150. The guy said he didn't have any money to buy the silver for the cheap price, but obviously had money to buy the shut out the world headphones which seemed to be more important.
Now, any idiot should know that a silver bar is worth more then 99 cents.
Also if you saw a silver bar laying on the street, would you pick it up, or just leave it?
People have been removed from the simple things.
Yes, I don't have anything to say in defense of the people in the videos. I didn't watch those.
I just think it's ridiculous to expect people to know the value of gold unless they are planning on buying gold.
Originally posted by Time-ImmemorialI think you're missing the point. The only person in the situation that knew the value of the object was him and possibly a store he selected.
No because its more then it actually worth, he was selling this stuff for a fraction of the cost. I think you missed the point.
Just because people do not know the value of gold and did not trust the guy does not mean they do not know the value of simple things. It simply means they do not know the value of gold which is not something that is traded or used often.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Sure, ever heard of the Diamond District in LA, people sell gold, silver diamonds on the street, and in stores.https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=Diamond+District+LA
If this was happening there, would it be a scam too? But cause this is two hours south, this jewlery store is a fraud now?
You got to be joking.
No, obviously the jewellery store isn't a fraud. And the guy wasn't conning these people either. I'm saying it's natural to assume you are being defrauded when approached in the manner that they were.
Originally posted by Newjak
I think you're missing the point. The only person in the situation that knew the value of the object was him and possibly a store he selected.Just because people do not know the value of gold and did not trust the guy does not mean they do not know the value of simple things. It simply means they do not know the value of gold which is not something that is traded or used often.
Wrong
Originally posted by Bardock42
No, obviously the jewellery store isn't a fraud. And the guy wasn't conning these people either. I'm saying it's natural to assume you are being defrauded when approached in the manner that they were.
Ok so willfully defrauding based on what conclusion? People buy and sell on the street every day, when did this not become ok? Are you under the conclusion that the only way to to business is with a greedy corporation who's ripping you off?
Originally posted by Time-ImmemorialSo you are comparing a well known place for selling these items vs random guy on street in front of random jewelry store? They are not equivalent scenarios.
Sure, ever heard of the Diamond District in LA, people sell gold, silver diamonds on the street, and in stores.https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=Diamond+District+LA
If this was happening there, would it be a scam too? But cause this is two hours south, this jewlery store is a fraud now?
You got to be joking.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Ok so willfully defrauding based on what conclusion? People buy and sell on the street every day, when did this not become ok? Are you under the conclusion that the only way to to business is with a greedy corporation who's ripping you off?
What do you mean?
I'm not saying the guy in the video or the store is wilfully defrauding anyone, they obviously aren't.
I'm saying it's natural to assume that someone is trying to cheat you in this situation.
Originally posted by krisblaze
Yes, I don't have anything to say in defense of the people in the videos. I didn't watch those.I just think it's ridiculous to expect people to know the value of gold unless they are planning on buying gold.
Not really, people buy jewelry all the time. Wedding rings and every other sort, its not that hard to find out. Or just use your brain and think
"ok when I bought my gold ring, it was less then an ounce and this is what I paid"
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Not really, people buy jewelry all the time. Wedding rings and every other sort, its not that hard to find out. Or just use your brain and think"ok when I bought my gold ring, it was less then an ounce and this is what I paid"
If they'd been married for more than 6 years they would have been wrong about how much an ounce is worth now.
Originally posted by Bardock42
If someone came to me in the diamond district of LA trying to sell me a gold coin I'd be extremely suspicious. There's no chance I'd buy something outside of a store there, I'd feel almost certain I was being scammed.
Truth is your being scammed more in a store then you would dealing with person to person who is willing to authenticate the metal from a store that he is not affiliated with. This is common sense BD.
Originally posted by Time-ImmemorialNo I'm not the scenarios you've presented are not the same. That's like going to a farmer's market to buy apples vs some random guy on street offering you an apple. They once again are not the same nor even close.
Ur looking for a way out, I understand. What makes that area well known to you now? I know you never been there.