Neo & Smith (Matrix Rev) vs Superman & Zod (MOS)

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Neo & Smith (Matrix Rev) vs Superman & Zod (MOS)

OK, this is the scenario; Let's pretend that Neo and Agent Smith have the exact same powers that they had while they were in the Matrix, but in the real world. Smith has the ability to clone, and has been at it for a week. Neo is at the height of his reality manipulation (believe and it will be) power. They are face to face with Zod, and Superman in a deserted city. Zod has Faora with him to aid him and Superman.

Which team wins?

MOS slaughter house

Smith solos.

So an army of Smiths plus Neo vs 3 Kryptonians?

Kryptonians speedblitz tbh.

I think you mean that the Kryptonians get speedblizted.

Originally posted by Stigma
Kryptonians speedblitz tbh.
Smith and Neo are much faster as proven by the films. You're a fanboy.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I think you mean that the Kryptonians get speedblizted.

Um.... dunno.

I remember the Kryptonians being pretty damn fast. Don't remember specific speed feats of Neo and Smith... apart form that feat that Neo pulled off to save Trinity.

Originally posted by Stigma
Um.... dunno.

I remember the Kryptonians being pretty damn fast. Don't remember specific speed feats of Neo and Smith... apart form that feat that Neo pulled off to save Trinity.

So you admit to ignorance. Good grief.

Originally posted by Stigma
Um.... dunno.

I remember the Kryptonians being pretty damn fast. Don't remember specific speed feats of Neo and Smith... apart form that feat that Neo pulled off to save Trinity.

MOS people had good flight speed, but their reactions are well below bullet speed as seen by them getting shot. whereas even in the first movie an Agents reaction speed was well above that of a bullet.

Originally posted by Silent Master
MOS people had good flight speed, but their reactions are well below bullet speed as seen by them getting shot. whereas even in the first movie an Agents reaction speed was well above that of a bullet.

I'm iffy on that notion of flight speed vs. combat speed.

I get what you mean, but I am not sure how fair is that.

I can see MOS evading bullets, for he was moving fast enough to cover the distance from Earth to the Earth's orbit in a few seconds while fighting Zod. I guess it must be correlated with his combat speed, but I admit this is my assumption.

I can see MOS evading bullets by flying faster then they can go or the person shooting can aim, but I can't see him standing in one place and dodging multiple bullets by just by moving his upper body around like the Agents did.

I see. That's a fair point.

I think Kryptonians have more raw power, but Smith is no slouch and he can make a bunch of copies of himself and he isn't so far behind them powerwise judging from the damage they did to the city at the end of the 3rd movie in their fight.

They do have crappy speed feats in MoS and even the decent ones are mostly done by Faora. But I think it is the ability to have multiple versions of Smith on the field that cements the victory.

Originally posted by Stigma
I'm iffy on that notion of flight speed vs. combat speed.

I get what you mean, but I am not sure how fair is that.

I can see MOS evading bullets, for he was moving fast enough to cover the distance from Earth to the Earth's orbit in a few seconds while fighting Zod. I guess it must be correlated with his combat speed, but I admit this is my assumption.

So by saying flight speed and cl,bat speed aren't different you claim that a pilot is faster than say Bruce Lee since he can fly at those speeds in an aircraft ? Ridiculous.

1st off

Kryptonians can punch and fly at the same time.

2nd

Kryptonians get raped

Being able to punch while flying isn't the same thing as having superspeed reflexes/reactions. I mean pilots can throw punches while flying at hundreds of miles and hour, that doesn't mean they have superspeed reflexes/reactions.

Generally when we refer to combat superspeed we are talking about what guys like Quicksilver Flash and Metro-Man have. IE people that could do things like read a book, paint a house or put together a 1000 piece puzzle before anyone else can even blink.

Originally posted by Werewolf582
1st off

Kryptonians can punch and fly at the same time.

2nd

Kryptonians get raped

No, they cannot. It is like saying I can punch while sprinting. That doesn't mean you can move out of the way when someone throws a punch at you while sprinting, silly boy.

Originally posted by Stigma
Kryptonians speedblitz tbh.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, they cannot. It is like saying I can punch while sprinting. That doesn't mean you can move out of the way when someone throws a punch at you while sprinting, silly boy.

They can't punch while they fly? Even though we saw superman flying at Zod and punching at the same time?

If you can't punch while running there is something wrong with you.